‘American Sniper’ Complaints Grow in Hollywood: Should Clint Eastwood Be Celebrating a ‘Killer

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Tangerine

that is a false assumption. the military has standards and it is clear you are just guessing here. the answer is out there if you care to search for it rather than to fuel a known liar.

originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: Answer


Firstly, I did not bold any of your sentences. Those are my sentences addressing your previous post. Even the slightest bit of reading comprehension would have made that obvious.

Secondly, I'm going to go ahead and assume you've never met a SEAL or SF type in your life. If you have, you certainly haven't spent any time around that person. Everything you're saying smacks of ignorance and it seems like you've formed your opinion based on works of fiction.

SEALs are trained to sneak up and slit the throats of women, children, and old people? Are you serious? SEAls are not "covert assassins", they're highly-trained warriors who are trained to carry out combat operations, not assassinations.

I guarantee that I have more knowledge of the training that SEALs and SF types go through than you do and you're completely full of crap. You're speaking about a subject on which you're not qualified to comment and I suspect you're only doing it to get a rise out of others. There's a difference between opinions and lies. You're posting the latter.

My mistake. Those were not my sentences, they were yours. However, by interspersing your comments within my post it created the impression that I had said those things and you had bolded them for emphasis.

I doubt anyone but you made that mistake.

I have known a number of SEALs and have spent considerable time with them. I have also watched them complete Basic Underwater Demolition training (commonly known as BUDs). Among other things, SEALs absolutely are trained to be covert assassins. I guess you didn't hear about them taking out Bin Laden. They are also trained to do extractions, gather intelligence, etc.. SEALs are trained to do whatever they have to do to complete a mission and many of their missions are in violation of the so-called rules of war and military code of conduct. That's one of the reasons most of their missions remain secret after completion.

The word I want to use would be converted to 8 asterisks so I'll just say: you're full of it. You've "watched" them go through all 6 months of BUDs? By "watch" do you mean that you live near Coronado and you've seen them on the beach a few times? BUDs is the basic training of the SEALs and reveals very little about the extent of their training. They are not trained to be assassins. Assassins are murderers. Murderers commit unlawful killings. Learn the definition of "murderer" and "assassin" before you use those words to describe people. Most of their missions are classified because it would give away too many details make them vulnerable in the future or it would expose U.S. intel tactics. You seem to think that real life is like the movies. It's not.

Apparently, you are unaware of the rather infamous case involving SEAL, and later Senator, Bob Kerrey and a raid on a small Vietnamese village. In order to get into the village unannounced, they "took out" an old man and a child in one of the outlying huts by slitting their throats to maintain silence. Suffice it to say that all the villagers except for one who escaped into the jungle ended up in pile in the middle of the village--civilians all.

I am familiar with that raid. It was an NVA/Vietcong-controlled village. There are mixed stories about what happened, from the people who were actually there, and they seem to be in conflict about the "throat slitting" incident, whether children were involved or not. Furthermore, the civilians in the village should have been in their beds or hidden in the "bunkers" dug inside the village (yes, there were bunkers for the civilians in the village). Instead, the civilians were all huddled into the center of the village... The likely scenario is that the Vietcong huddled the civilians there and either killed them ahead of the attack or intentionally drew fire so that the SEALs would kill the women and children. If you don't think this sort of thing happened all the time in Vietnam, you're naive.

If you think this sort of thing doesn't happen, you are not knowledgable about SEALs.

Your assertion was that they are trained to slit the throats of women, children, and old men. Still a lie. If true, Operation Redwing would not have gone tits up resulting in 19 dead and Marcus Luttrell shot to pieces.

originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
a reply to: Answer

If he interviewed kyle.. then thats where he got the stories
If they were false there would be lawsuits. I think thats obvious. NO ONE BUT POSTERS HERE HAVE REFUTED THE CLAIMS FOR A REASON. THEY ARE TRUE.

originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
a reply to: Answer

Oh and those are just the three instances I chose there are 4 or 5 other well known lies and disturbing quotes from kyle.