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originally posted by: anton74
originally posted by: Eunuchorn
Who cares if barium is toxic! They're using it to make the sky a giant hologram, not poison us! Come on people.
Wild claims require a link to a Youtube video for verification.
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Eunuchorn
Yea, I heard they were going to show The Wizard of Oz while playing Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon, followed by a documentary of hollow Earth using a Reptilian overlord as the narrator. Big screen MADNESS!
originally posted by: Eunuchorn
originally posted by: anton74
originally posted by: Eunuchorn
Who cares if barium is toxic! They're using it to make the sky a giant hologram, not poison us! Come on people.
Wild claims require a link to a Youtube video for verification.
www.bariumblues.com...
truedemocracyparty.net...
www.stopsprayingcalifornia.com...
Sorry no YouTube links; that's only for widely accepted mainstream concepts.
Definition of a contrail: A contrail occurs when a plane travels at a high altitude (about 30,000 ft. or more) and compresses the air into a water vapor or ice crystals through jet engines or the wing tips pushing through the air. This trail disappears after a minute or so due to evaporation, because it’s water. This is normal.
Definition of a chemtrail: The term “chemtrail” is a relatively new word, which appeared in the last ten years or more with the appearance of chemtrails. A chemtrail is not normal.
A chemtrail is very different from a contrail. At first a chemtrail might look a bit like a contrail. However, instead of disappearing like a contrail does, a chemtrail just keeps spreading out and forming a hazy cloud bank. These trails traverse the whole sky and stay for up to around five or even eight hours. They have been known to turn what was originally a clear blue sky into a grey haze.
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: anton74
this made me smile.
Definition of a contrail: A contrail occurs when a plane travels at a high altitude (about 30,000 ft. or more) and compresses the air into a water vapor or ice crystals through jet engines or the wing tips pushing through the air. This trail disappears after a minute or so due to evaporation, because it’s water. This is normal.
Definition of a chemtrail: The term “chemtrail” is a relatively new word, which appeared in the last ten years or more with the appearance of chemtrails. A chemtrail is not normal.
A chemtrail is very different from a contrail. At first a chemtrail might look a bit like a contrail. However, instead of disappearing like a contrail does, a chemtrail just keeps spreading out and forming a hazy cloud bank. These trails traverse the whole sky and stay for up to around five or even eight hours. They have been known to turn what was originally a clear blue sky into a grey haze.
Since it's warm up there, the contrail usually evaporates. Because it's water. I tried it and it didn't work. I took a block of water out of the freezer and it stayed on my counter for a really long time. I am calling shenanigans!
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: anton74
If someone cannot see past the first part of water evaporating in -50F/C temperatures being a fail, then I fully support them in their efforts to champion the chemtrail cause. Humor is an integral part of society.
originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
...you aer [sic] just rearranging words to try to avoid having to acknowledge that het [sic] blood tests show no evidence of ahazard [sic]...
originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
...you are using argument from ignorance to try to make others prove your baseless claim false.
originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
"Normal" barium levels in blood are 80-400 micro-grams per liter - it has been known for ages
originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
Absolutely - there is no evidence at all that the blood levels that have been reported are in any way hazardous, and they have been shown to be within the normal range expected of human blood - that is exactly what debunking is - removing the bunk.
originally posted by: network dude
There are also people here who are waiting for you to show how those levels are toxic to humans. The ball is in your court. Just show what the toxic levels of barium in human blood is. You may have a valid argument, but without anything other than opinions from you, the documents provided tell a much different story.
originally posted by: CTSoldier
a reply to: network dude
I have to chime in here. I've read all the posts from page 1 til here. And it amazes me that the focus of this whole dispute that you and Petros and whomever was involved was focused on the barium levels produced by one documentary called shade which i have not watched nor do i need to. I was a hard skeptic of chemtrails, but now I know from my personal empirical data I collected on my own that to me they do exist. Has anyone actually taken the time to go outside and test the theory for themselves? I watched What in the World and Why in the World along with a ton of amateur videos of people showing what they believe to be chemtrails, many documentaries, us patents, documetns etc.. And it made me question wow whats going on here? How much time have you spent and what evidence have you gathered to prove that they don't exist? I figured the only way to really see if they exist is to get my ass off my chair and go outside and start paying attention to the sky on a daily basis. And every jet that I saw if I had the opportunity I took pictures of it as well as all types of cloud cover especially clouds that form after suspected planes that were emitting questionable exhaust plumes.
Especially, when you wake to a beautiful sky where there are a few planes flying east to west with no trails con or chem north of my location (where the international airport is its NE of me) and then you have another part the sky S and SW of my location with high air traffic west to east of planes flying sorties staggered formation with a lead plane emitting nothing and right behind at a slightly lower altitude southwest of the lead plane at a specific point in the sky where the lead has passed you see a trail form immediately behind the second plane and continue across the whole sky and about 5-15 sec after southwest of the second plane you see the third plane in the formation at approx the same specific point start forming a trail and spraying across the sky. Then they circle back and start again. Commercial airliners don't fly in formation and sure as hell do not repeat there flight path over and over again at non-cruising altitudes.
And its not just looking up and taking pictures its also watching the the flight path of these planes the times of the day that suspected planes were in the air and the flight direction. Looking for what airports are nearby military and civilian and what would be the general direction of planes taking off from airports around my locations to remove the possibility of it being a commercial plane. Also the weather because what a coincidence that anywhere from 1-7days the average being 1-3 days before a storm regardless of the season you will see heightened air traffic and these types of sorties being run and wind direction being most important. There is way more to debunking than looking at pictures and youtube videos and saying that they are full of # and that chemtrails are as real as santa. That's simply not the case. And we are all on a need to know basis. You are miniscule to the cartel that runs the show nothing more than an expendable commodity. You think they are going to just tell you? No, but they do expect you to be naive, narrow-minded, complacent and distracted enough to not pay attention or really care and just dismiss this as another conspiracy theorist. At that they are correct because I was a victim of that. That's why they got blatantly careless they didn't expect people to start really questioning things.
This all falls under the method of Problem(falsely created or facilitated and can be decades in the making), Reaction(usually from the public outcry wanting change), Solution(as if the solution as already been produced by a bill for example). Look at many of the high profile events that have happened 911, The federal reserve act of 1913, and the iraq wars to name a few and plug in this method and see the pattern of how they get you to consent to whatever there agenda is. Sorry to get off topic.
So, the evidence. I have since 2011 taken and collected over 9,500 pictures and over 2 dozens videos for myself to breakdown the data and empirically conclude with my own eyes that they do exist. What have all the skeptics done to gather empirical data and conclude the opposite?
Here are a few videos that I thought were very informative on evidence that this phenomena indeed is real. One is Clifford Carnicom - Aerosol Crimes 2005 the other is From Chemtrails to Pseudo Life - The Dark Agenda of Synthetic Biology by Sofia Smallstorm. you can hopefully still find these on youtube. And one of my videos I posted similar to what I described above www.youtube.com... or search youtube for CT Chemtrails. Also, I will provide two documents and one book to read. One document is called Weather as a force Multiplier Owning the Weather in 2025, the other is HR2977 - Space Preservation Act of 2001 link here www.congress.gov... Look for the word chemtrails. The book is called Angels Dont Play this HAARP by Nick Begich.
In my opinion chemtrails are used for a much broader spectrum of weather modification for warfare and control. Not population control. If they want you dead then you will simply disappear from the face of the earth. The CIA had in the late 60s and 70s developed a microwave type gun that can give you a heart attack from a specified distance. So we are niave to believe that there isnt a bigger agenda at play and were are the puppets getting our strings pulled every which way. What better to the puppeteers to have your little puppets attacking each other day after day year after year on who is right or wrong instead of joining forces in massive numbers and force the truth out of them. Until then they have us right where they want us. Well most of us that is. Goodnight.
originally posted by: CTSoldier
a reply to: network dude
How much time have you spent and what evidence have you gathered to prove that they don't exist?.