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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Realtruth
Copper conducts electricity. Subjective truth? Then when does copper not conduct electricity?
originally posted by: Realtruth
"Cold hard facts" are a compilation of subjective truths
The only thing that is absolute is numbers, so maybe your example would be the truth, but with anything else it's subjective.
Words can be twisted, formal logic proves this; and is the means to which politicians and lawyers are able to twist facts and make them appear to be truth.
The only thing that is absolute fact in our world is numbers, everything else is subjective.
originally posted by: Korg Trinity
No.... it appears you are having a cognitive issue.
Subjective truth is that which one believes to be true.
Were as actual truth is that which is undeniably true, based upon cold hard facts.
Korg.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Realtruth
Interesting. How bout this:
Is "all truth is subjective" an objective or subjective truth?
originally posted by: Realtruth
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Realtruth
Interesting. How bout this:
Is "all truth is subjective" an objective or subjective truth?
All truth would not be objective or subjective.
The only exception would be numbers because they are absolute.
If we reach far out, on a metaphysical level then imo there is an ultimate truth, but trying to prove it via logic, words, or anything else will make people nuts, just like proving the existence of "God".
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Realtruth
I would argue there is no absolute truth and knowledge, that truth and knowledge are human in origin and practice. Numbers as well. The word digit is derived from the fingers, and so is number, derived from fingers and notches on bones and sticks. Numbers advance in 10s because we have 10 fingers, except in a few instances where it goes in twenty, likely because they counted the toes as well. Numbers are as absolute as our fingers and toes.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Realtruth
I would argue there is no absolute truth and knowledge, that truth and knowledge are human in origin and practice. Numbers as well. The word digit is derived from the fingers, and so is number, derived from fingers and notches on bones and sticks. Numbers advance in 10s because we have 10 fingers, except in a few instances where it goes in twenty, likely because they counted the toes as well. Numbers are as absolute as our fingers and toes.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Realtruth
I would argue there is no absolute truth and knowledge, that truth and knowledge are human in origin and practice. Numbers as well. The word digit is derived from the fingers, and so is number, derived from fingers and notches on bones and sticks. Numbers advance in 10s because we have 10 fingers, except in a few instances where it goes in twenty, likely because they counted the toes as well. Numbers are as absolute as our fingers and toes.
really? so you could easily put three rocks on a table and, with a simple shift in logical reasoning, say that there are actually five rocks instead of three?
originally posted by: Korg Trinity
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Realtruth
I would argue there is no absolute truth and knowledge, that truth and knowledge are human in origin and practice. Numbers as well. The word digit is derived from the fingers, and so is number, derived from fingers and notches on bones and sticks. Numbers advance in 10s because we have 10 fingers, except in a few instances where it goes in twenty, likely because they counted the toes as well. Numbers are as absolute as our fingers and toes.
really? so you could easily put three rocks on a table and, with a simple shift in logical reasoning, say that there are actually five rocks instead of three?
Or that they are not rocks but Bananas!
Korg.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: TzarChasm
really? so you could easily put three rocks on a table and, with a simple shift in logical reasoning, say that there are actually five rocks instead of three?
Why would I do that?
it doesnt matter if you would, you seem to be implying that it is not only possible but reasonable. i suppose you would assert that colors are a fabrication as well?
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: TzarChasm
it doesnt matter if you would, you seem to be implying that it is not only possible but reasonable. i suppose you would assert that colors are a fabrication as well?
You're implying it. What I said was numbers are not absolute. In other words, when humans die out, number and counting will too.