originally posted by: lostbook
What says ATS?
I think Ive been on ATS long enough to sum up the things 99% of it will say, in one form or another, in generally descending order of both... ahem...
"ignorance", would be the nice way to put it... and commonality:
1: "Herp derp, it was (something really low) temperature here today, hurr durrrrrr, sure be nice ifn that heat came over my way!"
2: "They dont know what they are talking about. Despite my non-existent credentials against their life-times of knowledge, something tells me they are
wrong and I am right!"
3: "Its a hoax! Carbon tax! Koch Brothers!"
4: "Its natural, theres nothing to worry about!"
5: "Its happened before, nothing to worry about!"
6: "Its happening, but by god WE had absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever! AGW is a hoax! Tax! KOCH!!!"
7: "The world is COOLING, We are actually going into an ice age!" (Ok thats actually the dumbest one, but its not very common)
The remaining 1% of ATS will try to inject some type of intelligence to the reply section, but will be heckled and attacked by a crowd from the above
who dont realize just how foolish they actually look to people who understand the predicament we are in even on a rudimentary level.
The situation is dire. No... in fact it is now irreversible, which I dont think "dire" describes very well. "Dire" implies there might be some chance
to turn things around, but the momentum of the system is nigh incomprehensible. Humans are looking at something that they are not physiologically very
capable of comprehending: exponential functions. Humans are mentally designed to think in linear terms. When a system becomes non-linear, as in
exponential, the human mind does not cope well with it on it a fundamental level.
This is why every estimate is being revised upwards constantly. Scientists, though knowledgeable and some, even intelligent, as they may be, are not
likely to be any more well equipped to think in exponential terms than an ordinary person would be. Their projections are linear projections, and the
system being modeled is in full on exponential mode.
Heat will, and has, come out of the ocean in large quantities very quickly. Typically those years are called "el nino" years. Its when a lot of heat
stored in the ocean is dumped back out into the atmosphere. Its why the atmosphere appeared to somewhat plateau in 98... that was an el nino year with
a large spike in temperature; but the Earth did not stop warming... the heat simply went into the oceans.
The situation is not reversible at this point though. So many positive feedbacks have been triggered, that its pretty much over. Even with a global
concerted effort, with a 100% immediate reduction to all emissions, its still too late because some of those emissions (sulfates) are actually keeping
the planet cooler than it should be, and dont last long in the atmosphere (days). Stop emissions, the planet warms past 2C immediately. Keep the
emissions going, and the planet is on course for catastrophic warming (upwards of 10C) in just a few decades.
I wont explain why thats bad to anyone who doesnt know. Look it up yourself. Its extremely bad for the ecology of the planet.
All I can say now to people really, is to make peace with death while you still have time. If you are relatively healthy and under... 75, you probably
have a good chance of seeing the full blown effects of whats to come. At least the earnest beginnings of them. And when that happens, you will most
likely die before your natural expiration date due to either starvation, or violence over resources at some level, local or national.
edit on 12/31/2014 by CaticusMaximus because: grammar