People, please calm down and GROW A PAIR!

a reply to: openminded2011

Seeing how unsuccessful my ideas are at gaining traction, I think I should start advocating the spread of H7N1 and Ebola. I'm like the cosmic cooler. If I stand up in support of it, it is bound to fail. ;p

originally posted by: FlyersFan
People would probably be a lot calmer if the government was doing it's job correctly in this matter; if the CDC wasn't hell bent on screwing up; and if the Ebola infected would stop being selfish and stupid (Duncun and Nurse Amber).

Back to the 'Personal responsibility' argument but in another aspect.

a reply to: openminded2011

What if you're the one viewing Ebola with fear while the rest of us are doing nothing more than sharing thoughts, news stories, expressing concern and knowledge on a open forum...ya know where things like this are talked about, debated, hashed out.
Phobophobia maybe?

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

....and also to call it a Big Pharma conspiracy!

If you think Big Parma doesn't have their own agendas with regards to situations like this *when it has been shown repeatedly over the past few decades that they often do* then this right there is part of the problem.

With an average yearly profit of something to the tune of Billions Globally are to be made people should take notice.

People have killed over much much less.
Big Pharma Pockets $711 Billion in Profits by Robbing Seniors, Taxpayers

Here's an outrage that must be changed: Big Pharma has been systematically price-gouging the Medicare program for seniors and people with disabilities -- and raking in billions in excessive profits. The 11 largest global drug companies made an astonishing $711 billion in profits over the 10 years ending in 2012, and they got a turbo-charged boost when the Medicare Part D prescription drug program started in 2006, according to an analysis of corporate filings by Health Care for America Now (HCAN).

Then, along comes Obama scare. I mean care.

a reply to: Hecate666

Please go back and re-read my post. I did not say we should ignore it. In fact I stated the fear is valid. What I said was, we should not depend on some agency to save us, we should be calm and take actions to protect ourselves on our own. What I am saying is that we should react rationally instead of letting fear take over our lives.

I have very little worry about Ebola specifically.

Having said that, I have ruined several pairs of pants pondering just how inept and out of touch with reality the people in power to handle the Ebola issue happen to be. If the US reaches pandemic levels, it will not be due to Ebola's natural ability to infect - but to a bunch of beaurocrats who couldn't tie their own shoes without the help of eight interns, much less contain a virus that should, by all rights, be easily contained in a western nation.

a reply to: openminded2011

1. CALM DOWN

2. GROW A PAIR!!!!!!

I agree that we all need to keep calm, there have been to many times everyone gets so worked up they have heart attacks and then nothing happens.....
But I am totally sick of the the type of sentence as your line 2!

I feel it is really disrespectful to equate courage with male anatomy. Women are the ones who often deal with things like illness in the first place, it is derogatory language and I think you should consider stopping the usage of "grow a pair". Thanks in advance

a reply to: Char-Lee

Please substitute with "HAVE SOME COURAGE"

originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: Char-Lee

Please substitute with "HAVE SOME COURAGE"

Thanks! :-)

I would add wishing us all luck is kind of like ..scary.

a reply to: Nyiah

ebola-ish

Humm I like it. Things seem very Ebola-ish lately.

I agree with Char-Lee.

The implication of owning pairs or not owning them are condescending and ridiculous.

Since when has an over abundance of testosterone ever solved a problem. Many a man has made bad decisions by thinking with the wrong head.

Intuit with your gut and reason with your mind, leave your hormones alone.

I tried growing a pear but the minerals got caught up in the grafting ball and the pear tree died. I can't grow a pear here unless it is naturally grown.

We should be concerned about what is going on in the world. It seems that leaving stuff in the hands of the people on top, people who are working for a government with their own agenda, is not very wise for us to do. My family is more important than the economy of the USA. I am not going to accept things where the evidence is being misinterpreted or ignored without saying something. I'm not afraid of Ebola that much, if my immune system isn't up to par I guess that is the way it is. Now, the Risk assessment the government is throwing at us is not appropriate, they are twisting things to make it appear that this disease cannot hurt us if we are very close to a person with it. I will stay away from areas where I am forced to be within three feet of someone who is showing symptoms of any disease. This lowers my chance of getting any disease, including Ebola.

Staying out of close proximity to people who are sick is always the best way to stay relatively healthy. Remember, immunity comes from catching diseases too. Once we have had it, we get natural immunity for a long time.

Fear, stress and anxiety are far more damaging to your health than you would think. Really bad for the immune system. One day your going to die, that is a fact. Don't worry about it. It just isn't worth it, unless you enjoy worrying in which case worry about it.

originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: Char-Lee

Please substitute with "HAVE SOME COURAGE"

Thanks! :-)

I would add wishing us all luck is kind of like ..scary.

Char-lee Char-lee Char-lee LOL You admonish the OP for utilizing a commonly used phrase ?

Definition of grow a pair

verb
"to act with fortitude, strength, determination; "man up"

"I would add and wishing us all luck is kind of like ..scary." Really ! Really ?
And yet you do not believe your sig line ( second sentence capitalized for affect ) is offensive to males ?
\"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. GREAT MEN ARE ALMOST ALWAYS BAD MEN \"

No offense but please try to be less sensitive to peoples usage of slang.
" Never be bullied into silence " A tad hypocritical .

Thanks

Ebola - Avian Flu - Taliban - ISIS - IS. What's next ? Epidemic of flying monkeys exiting from New Jersey residents rectums etc. OMG !!!!!!! All hyped by the MSM. " If it bleeds it leads "

a reply to: Bluesma

Bleusma, I think in your case it's reasonable to take the extra precautions you can. If I worked such a job, I would do so as well. I've given up reading most of the ebola threads beyond the OP. I'm not going to go and hunt down responses, but some of them have definitely been feeling the love of doom porn. It's a thing, it happens. The worst are the ones who come across as wanting ebola to spread just to say they were right. However, I think most have been reasonable or have abandoned talking about it because of those reasons.

originally posted by: dazbog

originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: Char-Lee

Please substitute with "HAVE SOME COURAGE"

Thanks! :-)
I would add wishing us all luck is kind of like ..scary.

Char-lee Char-lee Char-lee LOL You admonish the OP for utilizing a commonly used phrase ?
Definition of grow a pair
verb
"to act with fortitude, strength, determination; "man up"
"I would add and wishing us all luck is kind of like ..scary." Really ! Really ?
And yet you do not believe your sig line ( second sentence capitalized for affect ) is offensive to males ?
\"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. GREAT MEN ARE ALMOST ALWAYS BAD MEN \"

No offense but please try to be less sensitive to peoples usage of slang.
" Never be bullied into silence " A tad hypocritical .

Thanks

"

C'mon, we all know what "Grow A Pair" means! No reason not to ask politely for people to use words that are more acceptable to all and not derogatory or suggesting some of us are less courageous.

As far as "men" in Lord Actions quote being a similar example i beg to differ!

Lord Acton
\"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

The thread is about not having fear...saying that we are wished luck implies that the OP believes there is great reason for fear...does it not?

No offense but please try to be less sensitive to peoples usage of slang.

I can continue to be as sensitive as I wish to some of the silly, ugly and vulgar terms that are repeated until they are drummed into everyone's heads...if I like. So no offense.

a reply to: rickymouse

Staying out of close proximity to people who are sick is always the best way to stay relatively healthy.

The waitresses and dishwashers at our restaurants are always getting sick, they touch the plates and silverware and glasses that people eat on. I would recommend if this spreads people be aware that you may be served by someone who is not well and especially in fast food places things get touched.

I agree with the posters that wish they could downvote you.

My readings from 30 years ago, along with 40 years of working in the medical field, have taught me two very salient things with regards to Ebola:

1. That if anything can go wrong in a 'western medical treatment' situation, it will. We could end up calling this the 'Murphy's Law Plague' if things pan out the way I fear they will. Whether flights from West Africa are banned now or not, the cat is out of the bag and we are in grave danger.

2. That Ebola, ever since it was discovered, is the disease that kept the world's virologists and microbiologists and CDC experts awake and sweating profusely in fear at night. NO DISEASE has the possibility of killing more people than Ebola, and once it's loose in a general population outside tiny remote villages in the Congo, getting freely aboard mass transit, it will sweep the world and be completely unable to be contained. The time to contain is has probably passed, but it is certainly 'as soon as possible', not 'whenever a bunch of idiotic bureaucrats and uneducated politicians deem it time to stop ignoring it.'

The whole 'grow a pair' thing has already been dealt with.

It's not the 'calm downers' who fight these kind of diseases, nor is it the ones who are freely getting on cruise ships and planes after having tended to the needs of an extremely contagious individual.

It's the people who have the EDUCATION about the disease, and the utmost respect for it, that are mankind's only chance of getting a handle on it. The reaction I've seen from the U.S. government so far is murderously lax, just as I expected it would be. That they've known about this threat for 30 years but are now ignoring it, is reasonable fodder for the people who frequent forums like this, the conspiracy theorists and discussion-hungry both. I have no idea why that would surprise you, and am left wondering why, if you're so offended, you just don't click on those posts?

How about YOU ignore US, and ignore the Ebola posts? Surely that's easier than 'growing a pair'? Maybe you could go read some history; there's plenty available describing the depths of the Spanish Flu outbreak, when the newspapers ran long lists of the dead, and the grave diggers couldn't keep up with the bodies. We have no more protection against Ebola than we did that.

The world is full of probabilities, will it come near me, will it not. If it does come to a town near you be afraid, be very afraid. Because being afraid heightens your state of survivability. Reading these sort of posts gives you a heads up on what to look out for and even a high probability that from ATS you'll know it's in your area before the authorities would tell you. But that's just doom porn, just remember the facts and don't be afraid till you have to be.

a reply to: Char-Lee

Your post is a very important one. We have to be aware of this. I also know that this kind of activity helps everyone build immunity, but in the case of Ebola, the outcome could be very bad.

Think of what could happen if Ebola made a lot of people sick. We need people to run power plants. We need people to deliver fuels to heat our homes or run the natural gas supply system. Look at our food delivery systems and humans that touch our lettuce and meats. I am not sure if this virus can live on a steak in the grocery store, I have no info either way on this. This is critical thinking, what will happen in an epidemic like this in our society?

I think this is more reason for people to have a stock of food in their homes and alternative ways of heating and light for a couple of weeks.