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originally posted by: mclarenmp4
a reply to: spy66
How do they know it was an SU-25 just out of curiosity? If all they got was a radar signature once it broke the ceiling how would they know for a fact it was a SU-25 or are they just guessing?
Genuine question as I have seen the Russian video on the radar data but they just seemed sure it was a SU-25.
originally posted by: roadgravel
I see RT removed the radar cap 'showing' the fighter near MH-17 from the article.
Translate of the letters from the image of the B777 with an ID 351.
It appears to be Singapore 351
Singapore 351 was flying in the area around the same time. Flightaware shows it cruising at 35k feet in the flight.
So that was proof of a fighter approaching MH-17.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
What makes this even more amazing is the fact that the Su-25, with no external stores on board, has a service ceiling of just under 23,000 feet. So how did it get up to 32,000 feet to make a close pass?
originally posted by: victor7
news.msn.com...
US: No link to Russian gov't in plane downing
Senior U.S. intelligence officials said Tuesday that Russia was responsible for "creating the conditions" that led to the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, but they offered no evidence of direct Russian government involvement.
The intelligence officials were cautious in their assessment, noting that while the Russians have been arming separatists in eastern Ukraine, the U.S. had no direct evidence that the missile used to shoot down the passenger jet came from Russia.
In terms of who fired the missile, "we don't know a name, we don't know a rank and we're not even 100 percent sure of a nationality," one official said, adding at another point
originally posted by: ScrutonEyez
originally posted by: Zaphod58
What makes this even more amazing is the fact that the Su-25, with no external stores on board, has a service ceiling of just under 23,000 feet. So how did it get up to 32,000 feet to make a close pass?
Didn't they update their fleet to Su-25m1 with a ceiling of 10 km?(33.000ft.)
But without new engines or a new wing it is difficult to see how the service ceiling would have been increased by 10,000 feet.
originally posted by: circuitsports
No one knows any of this for sure except the people that saw the actions of whatever party took it down.
Service ceilings can easily be exceeded especially in times of war or emergency.