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According to Department of Defense records, al-Baghdadi was held at Camp Bucca as a 'civilian internee' by US Forces-Iraq from early February 2004 until early December 2004, when he was released. A Combined Review and Release Board recommended the 'unconditional release' of al-Baghdadi and there is no record of him being held at any other time.
ISIS Leader al-Baghdadi Has Been Brainwashed by CIA
originally posted by: Thorneblood
Implying IS/The caliph is "their pit bull" doesn't make sense as they are a direct threat to the House of Saud,
The real goal is to destabelize the region ,set even the other foot in the ME,control the resources,confront Iran and Russia,sell arms to puppet regimes by spreading false fear,suck up to Israel and to help petro dollar not to go down any further...And of course there are always small side goals as well ,like getting rid of the bullies/terrorists your government had helped to blossom,spending a lot of budget on war ,blaming the economy on big bad "enemies" and the personal issues between john and vladimir.
originally posted by: Thorneblood
a reply to: demus
By implying that the CIA brainwashed The Caliph to further destabilize the region as part of a government plot to control a resource that is becomingly obsolete? Yes, you did say the US was in control...
None of those goals you mentioned really benefits the people you claim benefit from it....
Maybe,but without help and encouragement from the out side ISIS couldn't even take control of a 7-11 store...And yes oil,arms and resources business is BIG ,way bigger than selling bubble gums or cars or anything else in a peaceful environment. As i mentioned above,there are other very important reasons involved as well.
originally posted by: Thorneblood
a reply to: shapur
War profiteering and oil hoarding is pocket change when compared to the money to be made in a peaceful, submissive middle east. The constant cycle of war in iraq has crippled their infrastructure and divided up the resources available to at least three different groups...
This doesn't need to be complex or diluted by conspiracy theories....what we see in Iraq is simple. A smart, charismatic leader seized an opportunity to take control of his country from a weak government and divided population. Leaders have done that throughout history just because they could.
originally posted by: Thorneblood
a reply to: demus
By implying that the CIA brainwashed The Caliph to further destabilize the region as part of a government plot to control a resource that it could profit from better through peace and government manipulation? Yes, you did say the US was in control...
None of those goals you mentioned really benefits the people you claim benefit from it....
originally posted by: shapur
Maybe,but without help and encouragement from the out side ISIS couldn't even take control of a 7-11 store...And yes oil,arms and resources business is BIG ,way bigger than selling bubble gums or cars or anything else in a peaceful environment. As i mentioned above,there are other very important reasons involved as well.
originally posted by: Thorneblood
a reply to: shapur
War profiteering and oil hoarding is pocket change when compared to the money to be made in a peaceful, submissive middle east. The constant cycle of war in iraq has crippled their infrastructure and divided up the resources available to at least three different groups...
This doesn't need to be complex or diluted by conspiracy theories....what we see in Iraq is simple. A smart, charismatic leader seized an opportunity to take control of his country from a weak government and divided population. Leaders have done that throughout history just because they could.
originally posted by: demus
...the ISIS related propaganda that is (somehow) being allowed on the screens, radio and internet...
I mean, they were tweeting about their killings! WTF? secret services control social networks but they cannot react in time (?) to stop terrorists from spreading their twisted ideas?