Weird California sighting

a reply to: Zaphod58

Hahah, I saw that photo a few pages back. Kinda makes you wish you were a foot or two taller I bet, eh?

a reply to: parad0x122

Should have read Green is the new Black :\

a reply to: parad0x122

That one from Skunkworks, I didn't even see it in there until I looked at the photos.

Then I found out why it was there, and it got a lot more interesting.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Hmm... not sure, maybe my Google translation might have gotten jacked up. Only reason I knew it said green in the first place was because every photo in the image results page was green, lol.

Hi All:

As this is my first post hopefully it goes without too much ridicule or discontent. I'm simply a lonely surveyor content with watching disclosure happen from giants shoulders (Zaphod58). I hope I haven't crossed established lines with asking this question, as I didn't spend much time reading the user agreement page. If I have made transgressions please feel free to flame on. I will learn from my mistakes.

"What if we've (homo-sapiens) been developing aerial platforms that don't negate gravity so much as mass"? Would mass reduction of any vehicle reduce inertial constraints on the platform and possible occupant/occupants? Would the theorized mass reduction of said craft have to fall between ~0 and ~20% of Newtonian mass to make any difference? Does anyone happen to know the mass differential equations associated with this idea?

Anyways, just a layman's thought; I literally have no idea what I'm talking about.... Seriously.

originally posted by: reeducated

"What if we've (homo-sapiens) been developing aerial platforms that don't negate gravity so much as mass"? Would mass reduction of any vehicle reduce inertial constraints on the platform and possible occupant/occupants? Would the theorized mass reduction of said craft have to fall between ~0 and ~20% of Newtonian mass to make any difference? Does anyone happen to know the mass differential equations associated with this idea?

Anyways, just a layman's thought;

A laymans thought - mate, I cant even understand your question!! Infact ive read it 4 times and just got a headache - off for a beer.

a reply to: reeducated

Where are you getting the 0-20% numbers from?

a reply to: broadbandit


Uhh....What. Just. Happened.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Domo1

The green light is very unusual. I don't know if it's related to anything, but I've never seen an aircraft with anything but a red light on the fuselage.

JP-7 fuel was last used in the SR-71. It's designed for high speed flight, because it has a high flash point to it. Nothing else out there used it, but they ordered 100,000+ gallons to be delivered between 2010 and 2012. So there's SOMETHING out there that uses it, and is probably high speed.

It's not clear if this is related to either one of those sightings. I didn't see it, so I don't know for sure about the size, but the SR-71 was just over 100 feet long and capable of Mach 3, so if it's something in about that size range, we could be talking about a new high speed recon platform.

Green light right wing and red light left wing. If you could get a feel for the distance between the two, in comparison to the escort planes, you could get a decent guesstimation of wingspan.

Large and fast bird with coincidental deliver of large amounts of JP-7, I'd have to agree that we may have an SR-71 replacement.

a reply to: NavyDoc

The green wasn't on the wingtip, it was on the fuselage. That's why I said I had never seen it used. The fuselage light has always been red, with the red and green on the wingtips.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: NavyDoc

The green wasn't on the wingtip, it was on the fuselage. That's why I said I had never seen it used. The fuselage light has always been red, with the red and green on the wingtips.

Have you ever seen two red strobes, one on each wingtip before (or heard of it)?..

a reply to: clay2 baraka

Red? No. Usually strobes are white.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: clay2 baraka

Red? No. Usually strobes are white.

Just wondering. I saw something with 2 red ones long ago.. Never since.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Hey Zaph

I have now finished reading the entire 50 pages, took me 2 hours as i really tried to take it all in. It is indeed impressive.
I must agree with one user who said how difficult it was for us laymans to understand everything or anything that is talked about, analogising it to a needle in a haystack....

Too many questions for one post so i wont bother!

I am now going to mow down the starship commercial thread! Any pages i should look out for?

a reply to: combatmaster

Trust me they'll jump out at you screaming.

a reply to: broadbandit

So... You are all powerful, you have offered the future to my leaders but they rejected you. I'm sorry I dont know enough about the F 35, B 2 or SR 72, I'm sorry that in my position when the national elections come in a couple of months I will vote according to who I think will best front my small insignificant country. They rejected you , so you must reject me. I am not worthy, I dont have a degree in physics, I could'nt talk coherently about aviation, therefore I and my kin must be left behind once you have enough brain power to discard me. I bow to ypur moral superiority, for you have moved on from us, if only I had read Wiki and put forth enough to appear worthy. If it helps me any I love the B1, its asthetically pleasing to me, sorry I dont know its performance capabilities, Im sure my nephews / nieces like stuff too. please dont leave them in 2040 when you get rejected again.

Ok man... here's the deal...

I dont like the implications of the Astr0 thread either, who would? If true, it means that we are all doomed, all of us who dont know anything that can contribute to the next step of mankind!

I understand where you're coming from, it has been mentioned multiple times in these threads lately.
I try to think of it this way (an analogy if u will)... Back in the day, somebody discovered how to manipulate natural materials enough to build a ship, builds a ship with a crew and sails away, discovers new land, creates new civilization...
Why did he not include the others of his community? they only hinder his advance, they are ignorant of how to extract bitumen of which tree to use and why etc.... Humanity has advanced due to manipulation of nature. Those who fail to learn new ways of manipulating nature risk being left behind on humanity's road of evolution/fate/enlightenment etc!
today this entails science.
This is like the same rant of an ape to a early human about not being able to make fire! gets angry he isnt given fire, but not willing to or unable to learn how to create it for himself.

Thats how i see it. just your being on this thread is showing that you are willing to keep an open mind, so this is already good.
So dont be upset man.... just be happy with what you are and (if Astr0's thread is accurate) maybe in the next life you can choose to be an insider.... lol!
And lets not take it out on Zaph..... he is totally cool, more than you could ever ask for, giving his time to answer our questions....

Peace

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: kingofyo1

I don't drag. I let others wander down, and figure out how much they're ready for, before they run screaming. If you left it up to me, I'd drag you screaming down to the bottom, and have you sitting in the corner whimpering.

Comment of the Year imo.... i literally choked due to lol!

since you dont drag other down with you.... would you be willing to put me into a cannon and shoot me down, so that i dont have to wait any longer? i will whimper in the corner like a *****, if thats what makes you happy!!! Please! i am begging here!

a reply to: combatmaster

I'm in the same boat, finished this thread yesterday, going through the other one today. So far pretty interesting. Only on page 5 or so though.

originally posted by: parad0x122
a reply to: combatmaster

I'm in the same boat, finished this thread yesterday, going through the other one today. So far pretty interesting. Only on page 5 or so though.

I eat through them like a rat! i will start the starship comm later as im going out to eat now! i will see you there i guess