Strange phenomena happened yesterday in the coast of Venezuela

ok did NOT read all of the responses but i think I know.

The land has limestone parent rock underneath. The water is a bit higher the last few centuries compared to more ancient times do to the NATURAL cycle of warming back up from the Ice ages. The weight of the water and the fact that limestone can dissolve over time to create sink holes on land makes me think a sink hole opened up and after it had filled with ocean water, the seal level returned to normal.

originally posted by: Woodcarver
I think if it was a sinkhole, or cavern collapse, there would still be seismic activity which would corelate with the time of the observation.

a reply to: Indigent

There are literally dozens of sinkholes every day on land and I don't recall hearing about seismic activity with them. The only one that I know of any seismic activity with was the Louisiana Bayou Corne Sinkhole where there was hundreds of small earthquakes for two months, then suddenly the quakes stopped and a day later the salt domes collapsed forming the massive sinkhole.

Have there been any recent quakes in the days prior to the event in that area?

a reply to: Buddyman

I agree with every thing you've said and I've been screaming it from the roof tops for the past two years but it only falls on deaf ears. Soon, the events will have escalated to a point where no one can deny. Follow along each passing day and these events are occurring every where and yet, so many claim it's "normal" but it's not. I agree with you that many of these events are from the crustal displacement and I have also theorized what caused the process to begin in the first place...methane and hydrogen sulfide gases. I recently finished writing a 434-page book on the subject based on my dangerous gas theory thread in my signature that features much of the debate on the subject from the pages of ATS. It's undeniable global warming that is occurring but the argument is settled on the wrong gas, carbon dioxide, when in reality, the series threat to our existence is methane and hydrogen sulfide.

a reply to: Rezlooper

I also believe that fracking worldwide is causing/triggering events like this. Places like Oklahoma have went from 38 mild quakes in 2009, to 780+ in 2014, and we still have 7 months to go.

Kind of like the guys the dynamite possible avalanches with a single charge. The potential inertia is there, but needs to be displaced in order to cause a massive avalanche.

The only problem I have with all this is more than one set of factors is involved including your methane/gas theories.

www.thenation.com...

RE water displacement. If something large landed in the sea, ufo or fat people, then you'd see a surge of water first equal to however much it recedes.

A major geological event such as volcanic sinkhole cave collapse etc would effect more then one part of coastline and would be reported before they could speculate on a cause.

A most likely answer as said before is a large storm just off shore which probably coincides withe el nino idea. Goven it happened a few years ago it probably happened tge last el nino. This probably coincides with strong winds and the tide (basically the reverse of what happened to the uk at the start of the year).

a reply to: Rezlooper

Here is an alternate idea I had when reading another current ATS thread, 4 Mile Long eruption of liquid sand + stored CO2 by member schadenfreude.



I know the distance doesn't really jive with the topic event of this thread, but it may be worth looking into, to see if any sort of similar drilling activity or fracking is taking place. I'd imagine such a thing could have the potential for very loose regulations in that area and could contribute to the likelihood of something like this happening there more often than we might realize.

I hadn't considered this before, because I didn't think an event could be large enough to displace the amount of water needed to reduce the level by such a large amount... maybe it could.



ETA: Looks like I'm not alone in considering this as an option.

Is it at all possible that maybe there is some kind of nuclear bomb being tested in the middle of the ocean? I wouldn't put it past any of the biggest militias to do this (i.e: Russia?)

Could it have anything to do with the el nino thing happening? Is there a similar effect across the Atlantic?

originally posted by: ScientiaFortisDefendit
Could it have anything to do with the el nino thing happening? Is there a similar effect across the Atlantic?

I had the same idea, since they expect a big El Nino this year.... this would fit the comment that it already occured some years ago

The problem is, that El Nino occurs arround Christmas and not in spring/summer

originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: Rezlooper

I also believe that fracking worldwide is causing/triggering events like this. Places like Oklahoma have went from 38 mild quakes in 2009, to 780+ in 2014, and we still have 7 months to go.

Kind of like the guys the dynamite possible avalanches with a single charge. The potential inertia is there, but needs to be displaced in order to cause a massive avalanche.

The only problem I have with all this is more than one set of factors is involved including your methane/gas theories.

www.thenation.com...

Fracking is definitely a direct cause of many earthquakes, but it's also an indirect cause of everything else because its contributing largely to the methane release. When fracking started here in the states it was supposed to lose less than 3% of methane gas to the atmosphere in order to be cleaner than coal, but in several studies, fracking is losing up to 9% of methane gas.

methane leaks erode green credentials of fracking

EPA drastically underestimates methane release from drilling sites

Methane leaking in Utah suggests higher national rate

Considering there are 400,000 wells in North America, most of them sitting idle having been fracked to nothing, that's a lot of methane release. I don't think its any coincidence that fracking started in 2005 in the states and in 2007 methane release started rapidly escalating leading to the problems we are facing today.

My guess, is it could have been an object with a massive gravitational field flying close enough past earth, to pull the water in or around that area.

My issue with something like a passing body in space generating a gravitational phenomena, or something lifting out of or crashing into the water is the lack of a ripple effect. The lack of any ripple effect has been peculiar, to be honest. You'd expect some sea height change at least like we do with tsunamis. I'd even expect to see some water movement if either plate had in fact simply flexed a bit like I previously pondered.
This Venezuelan weirdness was a massive displacement of water, with it not showing up on other shores or even on bouys. I tried checking bouy data for the nearest ones here and here, but didn't see anything to indicate any unusual change in sea height. Not only that, but there are also islands offshore there, from Bonaire & Curacao to the east to the islands that comprise Los Roques National Park, which I'm sure is monitored to some extent & does have a teeny population. Someone surely would have seen something as odd as displaced water moving up the beaches.

Just to add breifly fracking is mainstream BS..also if someone can be good enough to process a map/picture of all the incidents worldwide i mentioned previously, that would be awesome! so to get this point across and how all those events are linked to the displacing crust...the real cause of this is coming from space i beleive.

hi,

This is what's known as Expansion Theory or OET, ocean expansion theory. What we are witnessing here is receding water, the effect. And the cause, expansion or de-materialization.

Good day.

I don't think this is geological in origin. It's very possibly a meteotsunami event propagated by an atmospheric gravity wave. The phenomenon (also called a seiche or rissaga) is relatively common.

A major storm system isn't required for this - they can occur in relatively benign conditions if a variety of factors come together. The amount of water displaced can be significant:

In the Western Atlantic, the meteotsunami’s deep water speed can reach 732 kilometers per hour (455 MPH). This value is equivalent to the long-wave speed of a barotropic wave at a depth of 4200 m

See en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: SummerLightning

If this were atmospheric or cosmic then you would find evidence or discrepancies and changes within the moon and any other spatial disturbance.

originally posted by: Buddyman


Listen Guys the signs are all there...All the things i will list here are directly linked to plate movement (crustal displacement)

-train derailments (not every one..but the majority)

-mine and building collapses

-sinkholes

- 1) 'mass die offs'...as methane is released from within the Earth,effecting the birds and fish which are sensitive to this..think canary in the mines

- 2) gas/water pipe explosions/leaks,also chemical plants and even oil rig accidents, BP Gulf incident hmmm..and pipelines (we are told the pipelines in Iraq were attacked? think twice on that)

-lakes draining

- 3) humming/boom sounds,which is the result of friction created by rock strata 'rubbing'

-landslides

-unusual/receding tides

-even gases igniting from the ground...apparently 'mysteriously'

-land subsidence and equally land rising

-and of coarse volcanoes and earthquakes,and additional examples i'm sure

I listed 3 of your suggestions to offer some input on them.

1) Although personally I am no geologist, oceanographer, or meteorologist, I can't say for sure what caused this particular event. It's not to say it isn't related to tectonic activity, but I do know that the 'mass die offs' were recently reported as the work of the USDA in response to farmers calling the particular animals involved "nuisances". Here

2) As far as the gas lines in Iraq being attacked as questionable, that did actually happen. It's an ongoing effort by opposing groups to undermine the new Iraqi regime's ability to run it's country effectively by hindering one of (if not the) largest exports. The same thing happened during The Gulf War when the U.S. invaded, and all the rigs were set ablaze.

3) This is a very intriguing phenomenon that after all the things I've seen and read regarding it, hasn't been solved yet. Would you mind sharing a source for this?

The same goes for the other events you've listed that "are directly linked to plate movement (crustal displacement)".

I always thought to be pretty observant, and capable of reading between the lines but this has missed me completely.

Of all the atrocities and inhumane things that happen in Venezuela(my country) on a daily basis, of all the things i've made posts and commented about, this crap gets to main page?

I have lost faith in ATS,and humanity

originally posted by: metodex
Of all the atrocities and inhumane things that happen in Venezuela(my country) on a daily basis, of all the things i've made posts and commented about, this crap gets to main page?

I have lost faith in ATS,and humanity

'this crap' involves the (so far unexplained) displacement of millions of tonnes of water. there must be massive energies involved. a cool mystery. i think it's a perfect ATS story.

a reply to: RoScoLaz

Well maybe i've lost my interest in science and phenomenons because i've been too busy trying to cope with inflation,scarcity and when i try and show people the truth they just tell me "you've got cheap food for the poor".

Yes that's it