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originally posted by: Astyanax
As far as I know, there is no longer any polio in my country. The thought that it may return, spread from Pakistan (which is in roughly the same region, with lots of trade and people going back and forth) is terrifying. And the thought that it could happen because of a bunch of conspiracy-theory-spreading religious boneheads with guns makes me furious.
But what is equally terrifying is the headway the Western anti-vaccine lobby is making among ill-informed people in America and other countries. People who won't vaccinate become a reservoir of infection in which disease can survive and proliferate for generations. These people are playing with fire. It is time for good sense to prevail; let those who understand the importance of vaccination start making their own voices heard!
It is no coincidence that they are ALL at the top of their respective classes in EVERY area of study.
originally posted by: Rob48
Stop bringing the CIA into it. If they injected anything into people at all it was probably saline solution. The fakery was in the entire programme, not in the vaccine! The CIA are dumb.
originally posted by: ThinkingHuman
originally posted by: Rob48
Stop bringing the CIA into it. If they injected anything into people at all it was probably saline solution. The fakery was in the entire programme, not in the vaccine! The CIA are dumb.
Sure, you want me to stop pointing out your freaky Conspiracy Theory concerning the CIA. After all, you are supposed to pretend there is no such thing as a government conspiracy.
You really NEVER seem to remember ever what you said in your previous post. Last time you claimed that the CIA had people injected with a FAKE vaccine. Now you proclaim the vaccine was real, only the "entire programme" was fake?
If the CIA was so dumb, were they made accountable for it? Or do they get away with inappropriate, "dumb" programs, evidently destroying dozens of lifes, and there is no investigation?
Your own statements also prove total ignorance of the subject.
"DDT? Care to explain how a pesticide causes a viral infection?" Diagnosis is made on the basis of a presence of Antibodies to polio-virus, along with symptoms of paralysis - which are the result of the vaccination! Isolation of the virus itself is hardly ever accomplished - according to the CDC.
www.cdc.gov...
If the CIA is doing this to people in other countries, how can you be sure they are not doing it to us in the US?
originally posted by: Rob48
Eh? Who is pretending? I pointed out that there WAS a government conspiracy, and how stupid it was...
originally posted by: ThinkingHuman
Sure, you want me to stop pointing out your freaky Conspiracy Theory concerning the CIA. After all, you are supposed to pretend there is no such thing as a government conspiracy.
They certainly attracted plenty of criticism, from the WHO among others. See link above.
You must be working on this without interruption. I corrected my mistake 5 minutes after I posted it.
Where did I proclaim that the vaccine was real?
Nice bit of selective quoting there! The page says that isolation from cerebrospinal fluid is "rarely accomplished", which is why isolation from stool samples is used in addition.
originally posted by: Rob48
a reply to: OptimusSubprime
It is no coincidence that they are ALL at the top of their respective classes in EVERY area of study.
I'm glad to hear it. Hopefully they pay attention in science class
originally posted by: ThinkingHuman
CIA can do anything with impunity? No investigation, no repercussions for those involved in such activity, is fine with you? Because they only maimed "clowns", right? And its better than being "droned", right?
Until some clown who refuses to get vaccinated travels to the Middle East and brings it back home with them.
Nice bit of selective quoting there! The page says that isolation from cerebrospinal fluid is "rarely accomplished", which is why isolation from stool samples is used in addition.
To me, this closes the case of your flawed assertions about polio and the vaccine.
originally posted by: Rob48
We could go round in circles all day...
Please explain how gathering DNA under the cover of a vaccination program "maims" anybody?
originally posted by: ThinkingHuman
(quoting myself) Nice bit of selective quoting there! The page says that a stool sample "does not constitute proof of a causal association of such viruses with paralytic poliomyelitis". Is your English good enough for that? Nice job misleading, though. (end of my quote)
why do you want to return to the dark ages where infectious disease was a major killer?
There is plenty of neutral science. That is why we have peer review.
My main question to you is: why on Earth are you so against a programme that has WIPED OUT polio in most of the developed world? Do you really want to go back to having 10,000 or 20,000 children struck by polio each year in the USA alone?