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Child abuse/incest and the elite

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posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 03:46 PM
I need all of you folks to share with me any verified info that you have on people from the political/financial/media elite being deeply involved into scandals of child abuse and incest.

I'm asking because here in Canada I've witnessed many facts lately concerning powerful, rich people working in the government, music/showbiz industry, and big corporations that were exposed for paedophilia, but rarely do we heard about child abuse networks being actually broken down or disclosed...

I'm wondering whether there could be some massive paedophilia networks among the elite, and that the sole reason why these networks are not taken down would be for the obvious reason that they are covered and protected by judges, politicians, commissionners, and mass media moguls... who are themselves involved into these networks.

posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 05:52 PM
Jeffrey Jones

Nov 2001 From a press release issued by the Los Angeles Police Department: "In November 2001, the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) received information from a minor who alleged criminal acts of a sexual nature against 56 year-old Jeffrey Jones. As a result of the allegations, investigators secured and served a search warrant on Jones' residence in November 2001, seizing numerous items of evidence. For several months, detectives from Juvenile Divisions Sexually Exploited Child Unit conducted an extensive investigation into the allegations made against Jeffrey Jones."

14 Nov 2002 Jones is arrested by the Los Angeles Police on charges of using a minor for sex acts and possession of child pornography. Jones is freed on $20,000 bail and is scheduled for a November 21 arraignment.

9 Jul 2003 Jones pleads no contest to a felony charge of employing a minor for purposes of taking sexual explicit photos. Jones is sentenced to five years probation.


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[edit on 5-12-2004 by TrickmastertricK]

posted on Nov, 28 2004 @ 06:03 PM
From another post:

Surely this (it) is a conspiracy. It is broader than it seems you perceive (I believe). There is a mentality of elitism that has grown especially in North America (Mexico, US, Canada) that ties to the same thing in the other Americas and much of Europe- this is a belief by some in power that they are more deserving than 'the others.'

NAMBA (north american man-boy association?) and a few others have operated for decades supplying youngsters for the sexual deviants that can afford the service. A good book (sick as it is) that addresses this from a European viewpoint is:

The Story of O
From the Inside Flap
The classic erotic novel, THE STORY OF O relates the love of a beautiful Parisian fashion photographer for Rene. As part of that intense love, she demands debasement and severe sexual and pychological tests. It is a unique work not to be missed.

This book is not new but it is as sick as any still in print. I am surprised that Amazon carries it.

Here's an Amazon link on child pornography. Peruse the titles and use a decent search engine to find out more. Wide and pervasive sickness.

[edit on 28-11-2004 by JoeDoaks]

posted on Nov, 29 2004 @ 02:07 AM
i recently read in the news that there was a big controversy in Portugal and Italy where a large number of elitist where caught on peodophilia and other child abuse charges. And the sickening thing is this was all going on with the consent of the management of a state-run orphanage!

here is the link:

It has already been billed as Portugal's trial of the century, a child abuse case involving a state-run orphanage as well as TV personalities and diplomats that has horrified the nation.

[edit on 29-11-2004 by aryaputhra]

posted on Nov, 29 2004 @ 02:11 AM
Im not going to comment on a large network and the like as i have no persoanl info. But having worked in the Pediatric ICU for 10 years that child abuse is one of those issues that crosses all Ethnic, social, and economic areas. The rich are just as liekly to abuse thier children as poor or middle class.

posted on Nov, 29 2004 @ 08:44 AM
it wouldnt surprise me
the elitists are pure evil

just look at them
they think they are "more deserving" and
"better humans"
than anyone not as lucky as them

they are idiots
and i wouldnt cry if someone threw all of them in maximum security prison next to bubba so he can rape them back

posted on Nov, 29 2004 @ 02:27 PM
That's right. As we all know, crimes committed in prison are just people "getting what they deserve." Rape is one of the worst social crimes, but in prison, hey do what you want right. Those people in prisons are just animals. Wait a min., are you one of those prison guards from Abu Dhabi.

posted on Dec, 11 2004 @ 03:12 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I invite you to look into the Franklin Credit Union Child Sex Scandal in Omaha in the 1980s. A prominent African-American republican Mr. Larry King set up operations in Omaha, NB related to trafficking and using children from nearby Boys Town, NB for sex. He is linked to Craig Spence, the White House powerbroker and Republican accused of running the Call Boy Male Prostitution Ring, which included boys.

More information is forthcoming.

Echtelion, the recent events in Canada are also startling, but isolated. I suspect the same in the case of Jeffrey Jones, the actor. NAMBLA's involvement is indirect only.

The Syndicate is very real. Their goals are widespread and incorporate more than child sex rings and child trafficking. Education and inner-reflection will set us free.

Take care.

posted on Dec, 11 2004 @ 08:16 PM
you're right Odysseus. The abuse abuse/pedophilia problem is a deep social issue that is horribly treated the wrong way by authorities. They keep treating it in a moral AND legal issue rather than attacking the problem from where it starts: the repression of ADULT sexuality in our culture. The thing is that child abuse is not a crime, but a deviance... it is a disease, and a disease that is SOCIALLY generated. it's not really because it is repressed by law, but because our system is repressing normal sexual interactions between Mens and Womens in numerous ways, and various forms. At the same time, the media -mainly through publcity, films and fashion- is continuously idealizing the image of the YOUNG GIRL. Womens -and even mens- are represented, both in their looks and their behavior, as young girls. Meanwhile, healthy, normal sexual intercourse are kept being marginalized and hidden under a flat, asexual, technical language. Love is being detached from sex, and sex from love. While love is always presented as something idealistic and platonic, sex is presented as being nasty, organic, derivative, and hidden. How many times do you have a discussion about sexual interactions in a business meeting? Never. Even when that would be relevant. People talk about sex in close discussions and when they have sex, it's behind closed doors, and they never say a word about it in public.

My theory is that because child abuse is treated in a legal and moral way by authorities, the most influent, rich and powerful people in our society will use their position and status to bypass the law -just the same way politicians and businessmens do with drugs use- so they will develop closely-guarded child abuse networks to let their repressed pulsions break free.

What our western culture needs is nothing less than a sexual revolution, or at least some social-cultural reforms that would thoroughly annihiliate sexual deviances of this kind in a positive way... These sexual policies from the government are empty and deeply misguided, and action, as much from ourselves as individuals and from authorities, should be taken to free ourselves from our taboos about sex.

What can we do?

Individually, it's to Womens to stop taking mens for sex maniacs just because they are making them advances, or even looking at them. It's not normal that a women feels arrassed jsut because a guy looks interested by her. And it is to Mens to stop being afraid of making advances, direct but respecful sexual incitatives, and talking about more interpersonal -and sexual- stuff instead of talking to womens about irrelevant subjects for hours. The repression of sexuality begins in our individual daily life, and if we stop it, it's gonna make a big contribution, in the longer run, to eraticate such terrible deviances such as child abuse.

these were my two cents.

posted on Dec, 12 2004 @ 02:44 PM

You have identified it perfectly. I hold nothing in higher esteem than justice. But what can be done when justice is controlled by the very people who commit these acts of evil? Justice becomes useless.

I agree with some of you theories of paedophilia. But they are incomplete. Some of the individuals in this group are involved for one reason: money. Evil in the purest form fills the hierarchy of The Syndicate.

A more liberal view of sex will not fix the problem; it would transform it into something else. But it is a cultural problem, a shared cultural problem. However, the problem is more than deviant: it is unacceptable.

So I ask you, what can we do? Because it is truly us who must do something. Anything.


posted on Dec, 12 2004 @ 04:25 PM
The only political one that comes to mind is Larry Flynt's accussation that Jerry Falwell had incest with his own mother in an outhouse when he was younger. This was a fabricated story bu the magazine. It just came to mind when I heard politicians and incest.

I'm sure you will find that much royalty as well as those of the old roman empire were involved in incest.


posted on Dec, 12 2004 @ 04:56 PM
There is a network and it was very active in the 70's thru the 80's but early in the 90's one of there leaders whos first name was Governor was murdered appearantly by one of their own cells. The group is actually a network of cells. They have many politicians involved but also vice cops. These cops use the confiscated drugs to have older children supply the younger ones. This level used to get about $10,000 a head for eight year olds and oil men as well as Arabs paid as much as 1 million dollars for one they could sodomize and decapitate.
The group uses a poison durived from the lower bowls of the band tailed puffer fish. There is an antidote and I went through Hell but came back with it. Perhaps I'll publish it on this site soon. They mix the toxin (tetradotoxin) with human seman for an electolitic dispersant. It leaves only very small lacerations in the liver. The coroner would need to know to look specifically for it.
They plan to ignite the Santeria (much as a primer is used for dymamite) to a blood feast of sacrifices to Chango. Chango is the Orisha of wind. I was told the network can gather 50,000 kids on an active year. They used to be called the Process but by and large moved from CA. and WA. in 74-75 to NY to form the Foundation. What NYPD call the Ultimate Evil.
They follow the Santeria and sometimes even pose as being them. But the primary suppliers are tied closely to Satanists.
While the US leader is a Senator I do not know about Canada but there is a very solid Chinese connection. The Chi Kung practicianer among them beleive they steal the "pre-natal" chi from a child it it is decapitated during intercoarse. But the over all thrust at present is controlling politicians. It is also very effective in getting police off of them by threatening to take the cops children.
I turned information over to the FBI in the state of the US leader last year but a month later the FBI agreed to allow each section handle terrorist activities. So they can keep a lid on things like this without letting the DC branch know. Very bad turn of events.
They have small groups of youngsters guided by respectable businessmen and Law Enforcement agents near every DOE and DOD site in the US. One goal is to corupt certain elements of our nuclear war head program so they are unreliable. What makes the taske even more difficult is the american people are so smiten with their own mythology concerning certain past politicians that they would not believe who the leader is at least not in our northern states.
The motorcyle goups Iron Cross (for sure with no doubt) and possibly the Saints were active by taking kids from homes.
If I get into too much detail they will mearly change their MO.
Many good people have given all in an effort to keep these beast at bay.
They may still be raising children in cages. They would feed them in exchange for sex. But when these groups were busted the children were returned to the parents that had placed them in the cages to start with.So far the FBI have ignored my advice and have in the past year trippled the price of Kiddy Porn instead of going for the perps. In effect the bounty on chilrens heads has risen.
Personally I place this way above busting pot heads.
Please report any cases of the death of a thousand cuts performed on a nine year old (they cut the eye lids first) directly to me by U2U. Hope this helps some.
Please don't ask for proof I could only produce the ashes of those who have fallen against these very powerful and well financed groups.

posted on Dec, 12 2004 @ 05:11 PM
All of this was prepared for another thread but it also relates to this. The reason certain reports were banned for 100 years was because it exposed certain high-powered individuals as having involvement with child abuse. Hope this helps.

Paper faces web libel action

Nato Secretary General, Lord Robertson, has started a landmark legal action against the owners of the Sunday Herald newspaper.

The authorities failed to prevent Hamilton's gun licence being renewed, or his alleged links to the Masonic movement.

A police report on the Dunblane massacre was allegedly banned from being published for 100 years.

[edit on 12-12-2004 by kode]

posted on Dec, 12 2004 @ 09:42 PM

Originally posted by kode
All of this was prepared for another thread but it also relates to this. The reason certain reports were banned for 100 years was because it exposed certain high-powered individuals as having involvement with child abuse. Hope this helps.

Paper faces web libel action

Nato Secretary General, Lord Robertson, has started a landmark legal action against the owners of the Sunday Herald newspaper.

The authorities failed to prevent Hamilton's gun licence being renewed, or his alleged links to the Masonic movement.

A police report on the Dunblane massacre was allegedly banned from being published for 100 years.

[edit on 12-12-2004 by kode]

Which links point to child abuse? I couldn't read into that by looking at the news articles... but thanks for the interesting links...

posted on May, 30 2005 @ 05:39 PM
it seemed to really derail the thread didnt it?

how do we keep letting this die? is the whole population that disconnected? if so we are in big trouble! the facts are there, the proof is even there. we are just lacking the fortitude to force some accountability on this issue!

posted on May, 30 2005 @ 07:29 PM
Not being of elite linage, I cannot say, BUT there are organizations who are fronts for the worst type of pedophilia..
This is not something I heard, imagined, or made up BUT I did experience it, and it is still being well hidden....~the truth is out there~

posted on Jul, 27 2008 @ 09:30 PM
reply to post by Echtelion

Are you kidding, bro? It gets worse. You haven't even looked at Thailand yet. There are too many cases there of pedophilia to even keep track of. 60 minutes did a special on it about 4 years ago. However in Thailand, it's too profitable to even combat. Many families put their children in that industry because of poverty. And I can't tell you when I went there, how many small Thai children I saw, holding the the hand of an old, fat, European (who didn't look like their sponsor)

I agree with you about Jeffrey Jones. He's completely sick. But then again we should've seen it coming after the character he played in Howard the Duck.


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