Are you a psychological rapist?

reply to post by Soloprotocol


It's erotic literature for women, why shouldn't women enjoy it? We are allowed to be sexual without being raped.
But how about you stop buying porn and there would be no market for it.
The whole I can't stop myself from buying porn is a weird argument for a man to make, if you can't control what you buy that is an addiction.

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tigertatzen

you're some revolting mouth-breather

Thanks I have damaged lungs so have to breath heavly through my mouth.

Now Im a perv

reply to post by Soloprotocol


It's a story about consensual bondage sex between 2 adults.
Rape is non consensual.
It's dangerous to suggest that because a women enjoys and consents to sex.that she is somehow demeaning herself. We are not all whores or virgins.

Thanks I have damaged lungs so have to breath heavly through my mouth. Now Im a perv

reply to post by crazyewok


My apologies for the blanket statement lol...i should have used another term. But if you ever did decide to become a perv, you'd have the perfect alibi

reply to post by boncho


You don't have to agree with everything i say, and these threads would be incredibly boring if we all agreed. But it is completely unecessary for you to be as insultingly presumptive of myself and others who have differing viewpoints than you do. I am discussing what was posted in the OP, not my world view on all men or any other peripheral aspects of my personal life that have nothing to do with the subject of this thread. I do not appreciate your implication that I or any other woman am to blame for the behavior described in the article. That is a slippery slope, and you would do well to tread cautiously on it. This thread is inflammatory, and I think you planned it to be. So you can kindly refrain from bullying people who don't share your opinion, because it was you who opened this can of worms in the first place.

Witness2008
reply to post by boncho

 

Have you ever been the recipient of this type of unwanted attention?

I have, and it is fairly uncomfortable most times and down right frightening at other times.

yes i have, it drove me "buggy", i was FAR BEYOND "uncomfortable". it seemed every time i turned around it was "i feel sick feel me and see if i have a temperature", "want to see my belly button ring" and even outright making crude, suggestive comments to me, bending over to pick stuff up so that her extremely short skirt would ride up so if i wanted i could have seen all (she did that with almost all decent looking guys), offering to let me see her change etc. and when i didn't reciprocate SHE THEN STARTED RUMORS about me, that i was gay, (and yes i KNOW this as a FACT, because when she was starting one of these rumors i just happened to be working above where she was and heard every word, she never even thought i might be there to hear her spread her poison). yet BECAUSE she was a FEMALE and had made complaints about others, i was told "sorry we can't do anything to HER, but we can and will FIRE those MALES she was talking to for sexual harassment".

even other FEMALE employees were constantly complaining about her unbusinesslike, skimpy clothing, and "nothing could be done" about her (even tho it was against the company "dress code"). meanwhile most of the guys in the workplace were SCARED stiff that they would be her next VICTIM of FALSE "sexual harassment complaints", she threw at any MALE that she got mad at. you are right it WAS FRIGHTING. especially with the "power" she had over EVERY MALE in the workplace, all due to "sexual harassment laws.

reply to post by generik


It's nothing to do with the laws, that's to do with YOUR place of work. Any HR department would be able to deal with this behaviour if they wanted to.

even other FEMALE employees were constantly complaining about her unbusinesslike, skimpy clothing, and "nothing could be done" about her (even tho it was against the company "dress code"). meanwhile most of the guys in the workplace were SCARED stiff that they would be her next VICTIM of FALSE "sexual harassment complaints", she threw at any MALE that she got mad at. you are right it WAS FRIGHTING. especially with the "power" she had over EVERY MALE in the workplace, all due to "sexual harassment laws.

reply to post by generik


I had a boss like that years ago. She would say really inappropriate things to the guys, wear really low-cut shirts and make a point of bending over her desk...she did it in department meetings too. She would also put her hand on their arm while talking to them, and that is extremely flirty behavior if you read about female psychology...and insidious as well because it seems so harmless. She fired every guy that she came on to when they didn't reciprocate and they were all afraid of her, afraid of losing their jobs, and going to HR did nothing, for exactly the reasons you stated. Now though, she wouldn't get away with that because more and more men are speaking out about sexual harassment from females.

All of these men stated how uncomfortable they felt, how stressful it was, how violated they felt by her. I am saddened to hear about your ordeal, but it is very important that you're speaking out about it and raising awareness that these types of things really do happen to men as well. Since you have been a victim of that yourself you can probably imagine how it feels to someone like me, who is unfortunate enough to have to deal with it on a frequent basis...no one wants to be preyed upon by another human being. Thank you so much for sharing that!

WilsonWilson
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

We live in a society that encourages men to objectify women. To dehumanise them. So I would agree tackling and talking about these issues at school would help.

Yes, but we also live in a society that teaches women to objectify themselves in the name of empowering them, and guess where that comes from? Feminists.

Women are taught to behave like men when it comes to sex. Hook up as many times as you want with whomever you want. Dress as skimpily as you want, and they even hold slut walks. Why keep drawing it back to sex if the point is that you aren't inviting sex and objectifying yourself by dressing/behaving that way?

What kind of world and society do we live in where one sex seeks to "free" herself of being the cheap and easy object of men's desires by behaving exactly as men desire - a cheap and free object of sex with no strings attached?

Do you not see where this leads to rather more problems than it solves for both genders?

Now, the feminists want to blame all the unwanted results on men. That's not fair. At least part of the blame rests rightly on them and the female culture they have helped create, and making women ever more suspicious and browbeating men even more isn't the way to restore any proper balance between genders.

reply to post by ketsuko


I don't believe are being taught to behave like men, we are being taught that there is nothing wrong with being sexual, that we are not dirty because we have the same sexual urges as men. Getting rid of double standard used to control women's sexuality.
I do think there is an issue with promiscuity but from the viewpoint that it does lead people to have no concern with people only sex. Sex should be a means of sharing with others not taking what you want.
Rape is about taking what you want. Having power over another.
Wearing a short skirt and liking sex does not give anybody the right to rape you.
Trying to link women who act that way and being raped is trying to take the focus and blame set from the man and place it on the woman.

I just wish people could separate the words "MEN" and "rapists"...

Rapists are criminals, violent aberrations and very much in the minority thankfully... these are dangerous criminals with mental problems..

Men are men, they act normally and treat others with respect.

Some men behave inappropriately, that is true but not all men, BUT even then, behaving inappropriately and raping are a gulf apart.

It really angers me that now, I feel, I have cross the road when walking down the road at night when a woman is on my side of the road purely to not be accused of being some kind of mad rapist.

reply to post by Mister_Bit


It shouldn't be so you don't get accused, it should be so you know you don't cause her fear. It's not her fault we live in violent times where you have to worry about walking alone in the dark.
I'm a woman but even I feel weird walking behind someone in the dark.

Witness2008
reply to post by boncho

 

Have you ever been the recipient of this type of unwanted attention?

I have, and it is fairly uncomfortable most times and down right frightening at other times.

Yes, I have. It even went as far as suggestive touching. And I've seen plenty of men get the same type of attention, and much more, in public spaces. I see it all the time. It is quite annoying and uncomfortable. But no one is calling it "psychological rape" since it was done by women. Because men apparently can't say no or something.

WilsonWilson
reply to post by Mister_Bit

 

It shouldn't be so you don't get accused, it should be so you know you don't cause her fear. It's not her fault we live in violent times where you have to worry about walking alone in the dark.
I'm a woman but even I feel weird walking behind someone in the dark.

Well that's kind of the point, I don't want to cause her fear so I cross the road..

Saying that though, the only reason why she would feel fear is because she thinks I'm somekind of nutter. I'm just walking down the road, I'm minding my own business but because the MSM and all these loon feminists force feed the idea that all men are rapists, she fears me.

WilsonWilson
reply to post by ketsuko

 

I don't believe are being taught to behave like men, we are being taught that there is nothing wrong with being sexual, that we are not dirty because we have the same sexual urges as men. Getting rid of double standard used to control women's sexuality.
I do think there is an issue with promiscuity but from the viewpoint that it does lead people to have no concern with people only sex. Sex should be a means of sharing with others not taking what you want.
Rape is about taking what you want. Having power over another.
Wearing a short skirt and liking sex does not give anybody the right to rape you.
Trying to link women who act that way and being raped is trying to take the focus and blame set from the man and place it on the woman.

The thing is that by encouraging women to empower themselves through hookup culture, feminists have made things worse for both men and women. It's a documented phenomena and so pervasive that it's even pervaded mass culture.

Encouraging women to seek hookups as enthusiastically as men hasn't empowered them. All it's done is cheapen them and make the situation worse. Women get "banged" and "nailed" now. No one makes love anymore. Women have effectively given men what they always wanted - no strings attached sex receptacles. Can't you see how that makes both them and the women worse off?

There is other evidence of lingering inequality. Consider the language often used to describe college hookups. If the relationships are becoming more equal why, then, is the language used to describe them becoming more misogynistic? For example: A popular synonym for sex—or, at least, a certain kind of sex—on college campuses is the word “pound.” Young men pound (and the act of pounding is as un-tender as it sounds). Young women, however, get pounded. As a sexual descriptor, the word has its roots in porn, which is perhaps why both genders use it, despite its decidedly unequal connotations. (A recently released Pew Research Center report found that eight percent of female video viewers said they watched adult videos online, up from two percent just three years ago).

The other problem is that it promotes the view of the world that isn't true and that hurts the rest of us. People now have the view that the hookup culture is prevalent and widespread when surveys actually suggest that it's not, but so long as people think it is ... how do you think their interactions toward members of the other gender are going to be geared, particularly if those people are dressed in an attractive fashion or respond in a way that indicates interest?

We see a similar issue with the gay community. Thanks to media portrayal, people think that the population of homosexuals in society is far higher than it actually is.

There are actual numbers that seem to indicate the pervasiveness of hookup culture is likely greatly exaggerated, and therefore not as empowering or pleasurable as some women might have you believe. A study presented at the recent annual meeting of the American Sociological Association found that just under one-third of college students have had more than one partner in the past year—a number comparable to rates in 1988, 1996, 2002, and 2010. Which means that hooking up has not, in fact, actually replaced committed relationships at all.

And of course, there is always the truth that when a woman sleeps around a lot, everyone knows, and that carries its own reputation. People will say that's making sex dirty or bad, but that's not true. What makes sex dirty or bad is when you cheapen it and sleeping around with multiple partners at the drop of hat tends to do that. It's a risky behavior that shows a lack of respect for both you and your partners.

reply to post by tigertatzen


My point was that you view all of this behaviour by men as aggressive and malevolent. When in reality a guy honking his car is probably giving you a complement. A ton of kids used to do that in high school, they were mostly virgins. So maybe in the back of their head they realize you aren't interested in them, but they are too afraid to even talk to you face to face. So they honk and then tell their friends about some hot chick they say. Who looked back at them.

Embarrassing actually.

In any case, you don't need a roll of quarters to sock them in the jaw. Plenty of other idiots make stupid statements to girls too, and it's out of ignorance because they can't get any. But then you also have plenty of girls who react and are swayed by general provocative pick up lines and behaviour.

Maybe because the light hearted nature of it, or the fact that they like the attention. It's not a bad thing unless it involves, a girl totally not in the mood for it, and a moron who doesn't know how to execute it.

But to say every guy who aggressively hits on a girl is causing mental anguish, and every girl does not like any sexual attention is absurd.

reply to post by Mister_Bit


No it feeds the image that a man following her in the dark could be a rapist. That's nor a looney feminist notion it's just the truth.

WilsonWilson
reply to post by Mister_Bit

 

It shouldn't be so you don't get accused, it should be so you know you don't cause her fear. It's not her fault we live in violent times where you have to worry about walking alone in the dark.
I'm a woman but even I feel weird walking behind someone in the dark.

If everything a man does causes you fear ... maybe you need to re-examine yourself.

As a woman who prefers the company of men to women, I can honestly say that I've only ever been on the receiving end of attention that made me genuinely uncomfortably once in my life.

Oh, and I used to walk in the dark on campus, too.

Most men are absolutely great critters once you get to know them.

But I also know there are feminists who now consider even consensual, penetrative sex to be rape, if that gives you any clues about how far off the rails this has gone. I mean, in their eyes, any sex that has the potential to cause great harm or risk life and limb is rape. And since penetrative sex has one purpose - pregnancy - and the vagina has one purpose - to expel a child during childbirth - the act of being penetrated is violent and the act of childbirth can kill you, sooo, no matter what ... it's ALWAYS rape!