reply to post by angelchemuel
Right here is something people forget about all britain's, the English (anglo/saxon) are almost exclusively descended from female britain's of celtic
origin whom there conquerer's took to wife, this of course mean's that all britain's can equally call themselve's britain's.
I am a Mc so definitely a Celt (with plenty of other thing's in the old medley though) but in history the Scot's (that's us Mc. Mac etc) are actually
viking irish along the male line and by that I mean they were typically norwegan and danish whom settled in the Northwest of england then there second
and third generation son's set off to conquer ireland (which meant they married irish girls and went native so the Mc name's were born out of a
gallicised version of there norse name's) then in about from about the 8th century onward then emigrated into the pict land's of Caledonia where they
eventually outnumbered the beleaguered pict's 2 to 1, the picts were saved by a marriage between a Scot's prince and a Pict Princess which unified the
two different people's, These Viking Irish scot's then helped to kick the Newer viking settlers out of what was now called Scotland and the
The Welsh are a Mix of Roman and Britain and of course the Roman's whom ruled Britain for near 400 years were very cosmopolitan so that mean's people
from all over the roman empire.
We are litterely not what we think we are, it just depend's how far back you are willing to go.
The people whom fled the terrible suffering in Scotland and Ireland were mainly the poor hardworking crofters whom farmed the land and in many cases
they had there land simply taken by the local laird whom had only recently had bill's of ownership drawn up in Edinburgh by the sherrif's court, in
many cases the family whom lost there land had neither sold it nor been conquered but were merely thrown out of there own land by bailif whom would
show up out of the blue and so the truth is many of those laird's were nothing but fraudulant thieve's whose descendant's to this still have a vested
interest in keeping the truth suppressed, this is why many of there deed's go no further back then the 1800's or the 1700's at the earliest.
A similar thing happed in ireland but this time it was food crop and the land owner was typically the irish catholic church which fostered a
generational blame on the english for the fact they took the food crop the people needed and sold it so the money would go back into the church
coffers, for there part though the english allowed these people to litterally starve to death and have never been forgiven for it (the English means
the ruling aristocracy but that distinction is seldom made).
The genetic's of the Celt's in the north and west of Britain and ireland are one of the oldest genetic diversion's in the european family and would
suggest the ancestor's of the celt's diverged as a tribe at least 60.000 year's ago though they have obviously not been in western europe all that
time, while the nordic people are at 40.000 years as the second oldest family and the Basque are only 10.000 years as the youngest european people
(they for a long time were wrongly believed to be the oldest but it turned out the Celt's have more claim by ancestral right than they as even spain
was once celtic).
To be celt is to be proud of an ancient and colourful history filled with tale, tragedy and glory.
The sound of Bagpipes is both mournful and stirs the soul.
And what better spirit is there than a good Scot's single malt.
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