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yorkshirelad
reply to post by lakesidepark
And the problems with the NHS that you site are a direct result of trying to introduce "market" mechanisms to supposedly improve patient care. Instead the bean counters met the bean counting targets just like the nice little capitalists that they are. The NHS in England is slowly being privatised and that is why it is getting worse. capitalism does not work for essential goods and services. The capitalist mechanisms only ever work if the consumer can say no without consequence. Oh and please don't give me the usual right wing BS about "choice of hospital", choice of doctor" etc etc.
rickymouse
Anytime you make a business where their profits increase from more customers, the possibility of the interest of the business not being in the best interest of the customer increases. Our healthcare system in the USA is flawed.
aLLeKs
As a German, I just don't understand why the people in the USA hat so much on Obamacare.
You always have the feeling, that they instantly feel like they witness a communist take over or invasion.
I just don't understand it, is the cold war sentiment still that much present?
Why do you instantly call people communists, when they want to improve your healthcare system?
I will nevery understand how even poor people, that probably have problems affording the medical costs, are against it.
ColCurious
reply to post by rickymouse
rickymouse
Anytime you make a business where their profits increase from more customers, the possibility of the interest of the business not being in the best interest of the customer increases. Our healthcare system in the USA is flawed.
This would imply an inherently malevolent culture... also, what about customer satisfaction (feedback/reviews) and company reputation as regulatory elements?edit on 23-2-2014 by ColCurious because: (no reason given)
groingrinder
aLLeKs
As a German, I just don't understand why the people in the USA hat so much on Obamacare.
You always have the feeling, that they instantly feel like they witness a communist take over or invasion.
I just don't understand it, is the cold war sentiment still that much present?
Why do you instantly call people communists, when they want to improve your healthcare system?
I will nevery understand how even poor people, that probably have problems affording the medical costs, are against it.
Obamacare does not improve the health care system. Europeans seem to be deceived by what Obamacare is. What it is is a mandate that everyone buy insurance. It was written by the insurance industry themselves. It provides no care whatsoever. It does not make health care affordable or more available.
you would only need to look into how many STARVE to death in the u.k hospitals every year to see how good the health care really is
Auricom
reply to post by lakesidepark
The same in Norway. Sure, there's "free" health care here but sometimes the medical staff and doctors are severely lacking. Especially immigrant doctors who haven't had their full medical education but somehow managed to get a job here. (There was a few cases of this a few years back.)
"Free" healthcare doesn't always mean good healthcare. Something I found out after moving from the U.S. to Europe. (I've lived all over.)
And in all honesty, if my life depended on it I'd gladly go into debt to have something serious treated then have a doctor that doesn't know what he's doing try to treat me.