Yes, genetic and epigenetic are very different things - nutrigenomics and epigenomics are also very different (apples and oranges different). Hope you
can find that article - I suspect (hope) you may have posted a link on ATS?
....I applaud your interest in Nutrigenomics - and understand (I hope correctly) you are looking for treatments/solutions to all that ails us,
including proteopathies. Just did a quick refresher on the field and yes, I see a great deal of merit in the approach, especially because it leads us
closer to personalized medicine. However, I give it a total fail in its inability to deal with environmental assaults (contamination of any type) - as
far as I can tell, nutrigenomics is entirely focused on inheritance and nutrition, which leaves out the larger environment as context
context is critical to systems analysis. So my concern with Nutrigenomics is that yet again, "science" is blaming the victims by ignoring critical
factors and offloading liability for disease onto victims by saying "health is a Personal Responsibility."
I do believe we have a lot of personal power to maintain -and regain- our health but also know that we're fighting an uphill battle. Still, any
tips and tools are useful - as long as we don't make the mistake of thinking one piece of the puzzle represents the whole picture.
I am looking at preventing disease, not curing it once it has become a problem. I have to study what the drugs do to find out how to prevent it. I
read a scientific article and try to find the chemical they are talking about. I then research where they got the idea from, most times going back to
nature. I studied where chloroquinones are found in nature, finding them in certain plants. I also saw where these work in a petri dish but not in
the body well to fight prions, because of chemistry that we consume that stops their action. I looked up how to inhibit the production of this
chemistry and where chloroquinones are found...a plant is the basis of this. Another fruit we commonly eat causes the breakdown of this chemical.
some inhibit it. Grapefruits and oranges are involved as are sesame seeds, I would say more but I need to research this more to make sure that the
articles I read are right and to try to understand more about negative side effects to this. That will be in the future.
You have to remember that these environmental changes are still part of nutrigenomics. So are the changes in the way we pick our foods. A growth
hormone for forming roots during drought is missing from much of our commercial food. This chemical makes the plants grow smaller so picking plants
that have mutated to not possess this chemical makes the plant have bigger yields. This is desired by industrial farmers and gardeners alike, they
can brag about the big fruit they have. Our ancestors ate foods that were hardy and drought tolerant so they contained this chemical, we were all
designed to have some of this in our bodies over our history on earth. Now we have lessened the concentrations of this, we cannot make it, we have to
consume it or the animals we eat have to consume it. Now the animals are eating food without this special growth hormone also, so they grow bigger
and fatter without the blood vessel growth that this chemical promotes in the brown fat. You see, I take these things into consideration. Not only
the chemicals that we have added but the chemicals that we have subtracted from our food. So what I study is a cross between nutrigenomics and
epigenomics knowing that changes in these promote changes to DNA after a while.
My interest is not necessarily to memorize names of things, it is to learn to loosely and diversely apply what I learn to the real world. I believe
in evolution yet I do not believe in the theory of evolution they teach, probably because I know that environmental factors can very quickly cause
evolution to occur...both positive and negative changes. I also know that desire and belief is to be considered in this, we can believe our way out
of some health issues by mentally correcting the frequency we vibrate at.
Everything I read or have experienced in my life is considered in how I evaluate this information. I lost automatic with the TLE so now I am
investigating what automatic is. My cravings were altered. This has to do with newly introduced types of attractants in food throughout the food
chain. People do not understand that our bodies are so complicated that we will never truely understand the automatic responses necessary to correct
the chemistry that goes awry. With all the changes occurring in our food chemistry on a broadform basis, only a few can tolerate these changes. If
you ate a big variety of food when you were young, you have a better chance of there being protective knowledge in the primordial regions of the
brain, what we call the subconscious. If we do not connect with this region and understand a little of what it is trying to tell us, it will have
negative consequences. I think when we get old, we lose the ability to automaticly find the antidote. We get set in our ways which means we do not
try new chemistry to correct this problem. Now the young are open minded, having experimented with ways to neutralize adverse effects. We need to
watch what the kids are consuming.
Take for instance taurine in energy drinks. It is needed along with sodium and chloride to clean toxins out of the cells. Medicines are based on the
knowledge of what taurine does. we cannot make this unless we can live symbiotically with the microbes that convert it or if we make the enzymes that
can take apart NAC. We can also consume it but it means we must eat raw meats. Chicken soup makes NAC if prepared right, even though it is cooked,
but not necessarily taurine. Now the missing taurine makes us more susceptible to insulin resistance and bloating, it is also needed to help us pee.
So, the energy drinks contain this. WHO has extensively tested the synthetic version that is used in these drinks and does say it is safe. I trust
WHO more than the FDA but even the FDA does consider it safe if used in moderation. Moderation is critical, we cannot consume raw meat on a full time
basis or we will always be peeing out electrolytes, causing deficiencies. I think this falls apart at about somewhere about a hundred twenty degrees
All of these things have to be considered, even the desire of the young when evaluating health. It is important to understand that some of this new
chemistry requires neutralizing, and it can be done. Fads get in the way of logical thinking but you can learn from fads also, mostly of what goes
Sorry for getting off topic. I could write ten books on metabolic pathways and neutralizing and balancing chemistry. The subject is continuously
being altered too, every time they find a chemical causes problems, they silently take it off the market and introduce something that has no evidence
to prove it is bad...most of these chemicals are used to keep fresh foods from oxidizing.
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