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5480 xáragma – properly, an engraving (etching); (figuratively) a mark providing undeniable identification, like a symbol giving irrefutable connection between parties.
5480 /xáragma ("brand-mark") was originally any impress on a coin or a seal, used by an engraver on a die (stamp, branding iron). 5480 (xáragma) later became "the identification-marker" (like with an owner's unique "brand-mark").
[Ancient documents were validated by such stamps or seals (see Plutarch, Agesilaus, 15:6; De Lysandro 16:2, ala DNTT, 2, 574).
Utnapisjtim
616 because 'Jesus' in Hebrew gematria adds up to 616 and Muhammed
Utnapisjtim
All we'd need would be to add two symbols for ten and eleven, for twelve in base-12 is 10.
defcon5
Utnapisjtim
616 because 'Jesus' in Hebrew gematria adds up to 616 and Muhammed
I'm not getting this at all. Christ's name seems to add up to 444, even in Latin.
I'm also not understanding why you are relating Christ to 666/616 at all anyway? Christ has his own number, 777.
Utnapisjtim
All we'd need would be to add two symbols for ten and eleven, for twelve in base-12 is 10.
You would use a=11, and b=12, the same as hexadecimal.
I have a **** account ending with that number.
666 is all over the place.
tovenar
reply to post by ketsuko
You're exactly right. And yet there is a real difference between a seal and a mere mark. A seal denotes ownership, possession, and the power to "keep" whatever is sealed.
Having the antiChrist's seal definitely indicates that IT owns you, and won't be letting go---you won't be snatched out of IT's hand.
Cf. Rev. 7:3 where the seal of God is to be put on his own servants.
jmdewey60
reply to post by Utnapisjtim
I have a **** account ending with that number.
666 is all over the place.
It makes me laugh whenever I use it.
Revelation says that it is the number of man.edit on 6-2-2014 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
biblehub.com...
[444 /ánthrōpos ("man") answers to the Hebrew term, ̓adam – and 435 (anḗr) answers to the Hebrew term ̓ish.
Utnapisjtim
reply to post by defcon5
As for the Mark, how about the hyper inflated Nazi war currency, the Military Reichsmark. It came in denominations 1,5,10 and 50, but it was valued at 10/1 compared to the ReichsMark, thus 100 and 500 denominations are included. These follow the pattern of Roman numerals which add up to 666. 1+5+10+50+100+500=666. Hence, add the typical 100 and 500 and you have 666. "noone could buy and sell...". 666 is all over the place. You find it in all computer software, currencies, you name it and it's there. It's in your wrist watch, your phone, the money in your pocket, your credit card, your TV, it's even encoded in the social seurity number, your passport, and to top it all, it's encoded into the very proportions of your body. So well, 666 is just about anywhere. You certainly wouldn't need a chip in your head. It's a thing that we can't escape if we want to live normal lives. What you'd need to change this, will be to issue a new numerical system and use the original 616 where 666 is in the Apocalypse. Unless you're prepared to cut off your right hand and poke out your eyes, abstain from all use of electronics, money, well everything we need in this world to live normal lives.edit on 6-2-2014 by Utnapisjtim because: added 10/1
ElohimJD
The "mark" is an indicator of the set of laws which govern your thoughts (forehead) and actions (right hand) in life.
Utnapisjtim
ElohimJD
The "mark" is an indicator of the set of laws which govern your thoughts (forehead) and actions (right hand) in life.
I guess you refer to Exodus 13:16 and Deuteronomy 6:8 and 11:18 which describe similar use of mark on hand and forehead. However, Jews and especially the Hasidim, use Tefillim or Phylacteries in English, two boxes containing parts of the Torah, which they physically place on their hand and forehead during the morning prayer. "The Torah commands that they should be worn to serve as a "sign" and "remembrance" that God brought the children of Israel out of Egypt".
Source: en.wikipedia.org...
What I had in mind when I made that post saying that 666 is the number of man, was the NET Bible translation.
This is a difficult one, for Gr. 'ánthrōpos' can refer to both 'a man', 'an individual' and 'humankind'.