Christ's real promise!

For those of you that buy into the old testament of the bible, I have glorious news for you, if you call yourself a " Christian" you no longer need sorrow your self over old scripture. It's a waste of human time.. of which non of you have very much of........ you do however need to concern yourselves with loving thy neighbor as thy self. Regardless of who your neighbor is or does or can be in your mind. Less focuss on the who and more focuss on the outcome. Shall we?

Just remember, as C.S. Lewis reminds us, loving yourself doesn't always require you to like everything about yourself.

So, if I can love myself without liking everything about myself, it means it's perfectly possible to love people without completely liking them, or everything about them, too.

reply to post by twohawks


1. Loving your neighbor is one of the ten commandments found in the Old Testament.

2. On what basis do you dismiss the Old Testament?

3. What does any of this have to do with the New World Order?

reply to post by BELIEVERpriest

1. Loving your neighbor is one of the ten commandments found in the Old Testament.

Which one would that be?

reply to post by twohawks


Good post...

Though in theory, what if said person does not love him/herself?

reply to post by Akragon


Is that possible?

oktopus
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Is that possible?

obviously it is...

reply to post by Akragon


I feel trolled now. Is there anything like that possible?

reply to post by oktopus


Well... ask a stupid question, you'll get a stupid answer....

Of course there are many people who hate themselves... Look at people in the military for example...

IT doesn't happen to everyone coming from a war zone... but some soldiers hate themselves after returning...

You can't just scream "troll" when you get an answer you don't like ye know...

DO you even know what trolling is?

reply to post by Akragon


You've got to love yourself to hate yourself.

reply to post by oktopus


You force me to question exactly why I ever reply to you...

reply to post by Akragon


Did you just read my mind? Or did I just do a magnificent job?

reply to post by oktopus


No... you make yourself out to be a moron

First you ask a question that has an obvious answer.... then say you're getting trolled

Then I give you a simple explanation... and you respond with an even dumber answer

sigh...

IF I must....

WHY does one have to love themselves before they can hate themselves?

I'll let you dig your own hole

Akragon
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I'll let you dig your own hole

I know.

twohawks
For those of you that buy into the old testament of the bible, I have glorious news for you, if you call yourself a " Christian" you no longer need sorrow your self over old scripture. It's a waste of human time.. of which non of you have very much of........ you do however need to concern yourselves with loving thy neighbor as thy self. Regardless of who your neighbor is or does or can be in your mind. Less focuss on the who and more focuss on the outcome. Shall we?

Oh..You didn't understand it!

BELIEVERpriest
1. Loving your neighbor is one of the ten commandments found in the Old Testament.

If you mean Jesus 'love god and love neighbor' ... that's New Testament.
Or were you thinking of something else?

2. On what basis do you dismiss the Old Testament?

Large chunks of the Old Testament have been debunked as myth and folklore. PROVEN not true.
Adam and Eve = Creation myth. Noahs Ark = Myth. Exodus = Folklore. Abraham = Folklore.
ATS Thread - Did Abraham Exist
ATS Thread - 10 Commandments Doctrine of Men

The New Testament is capable of standing on it's own merit without those stories.
Belief in Jesus message in the gospels doesn't need literal belief in O.T. folklore.

oktopus
I feel trolled now. Is there anything like that possible?

- Akragon has proven himself through the years as a very good poster. He's no troll.
- Speaking as a person with a degree in Psychology I can tell you without question that it is VERY possible not to love oneself. Much of the self destructive behavior you see going on in the world (drug abuse, teenage sex, child abuse, spouse abuse, etc) can be traced back to self hate. Not always. But many times.
- No 'self love' is required before a person can hate themselves. Just ask the children who are victims of child abuse.

Also, organized religions play with the psychology of self hate. They use GUILT to keep people in line or to keep people coming back for more in their cults. People buy into the guilt that is pounded into them by ministers, priests, rabbis, Imams, etc ... so they keep going back for more.

A message to the Churches and their followers from their messiah

All that I gave, you have kept; draining my life till nothing is left.
Honing my fears into one massive beast, a raging mental war at the end of a leash.
Justice has failed me, bleeding me dry; feeding my rage awaiting the time.
Your mercy is cut, now all will be lost. The final temptation yours at all cost.

Your Fathers and Forefathers never sat at my table.
All you are giving, is that which was stolen. Nothing more.

You know that they were those who put me to death, yet you feed their pockets?
You know that they washed my words as their own, and divided my garments amongst them,
Yet you sit at the tables of their houses and tell me that you love me?

What is it then to love the one that 'saved' you?
Does this mean celebrating my death with my killers?
Would you invite those who put one of your family members to death into your home?
Would you embrace them, and give them love; and call them friend?

Why do you turn a blind eye to their evils? I do not!
Why would you thank them for giving that which is not theirs? You should not!
Why would you pledge yourself to them, and empower their wickedness? None should!
Why would you say you love me, by giving thanks for my death?

Why can't you just believe the words; without seeking the man through a Church?
Why can't you see the Church for its lies, and know I am not with them?
That I will never be with them. That I have come back to take from them what is mine.
That as it is mine. I would see the dark empire built in my name fall!
They would not accept me or recognise me,
They would not take the word I bring as it is meant to be given,
So by them thinking they know better than I; they shall be evicted!

I was used to further their deception of spirit!
By those claiming to be of God; who are not of God.
They are those from far below, not of the true Divine powers.
We are all of us; from above. Of the true Divine powers. That which they covet.

There is no 'Father, Son and Holy Spirit'.
The only trinity is that which has always been, and always SHALL be,

Mother, Father and Child.

For the Mother is like the canvas. The ''all'' which surrounds us. A blank slate upon which creation is built.
The Father is like the paint. The 'creative essence' from which, the canvas finds life.
The child is like artwork. The beautiful and perfectly, imperfect result of the Unity of the two.

How naive are you all as children of the true Divine power; to accept and believe that all life on this Earth would come from a Mother; except that of creation?

I tell you now, that our Mothers heart is beautiful; and it is broken.
It is broken because of those such as yourself; who have discounted her existence when she gave you everything she is!
Who have seen her daughters created in her image punished for the wants; and lust of men.

The true and original translation tell you that man was made to look like him; and woman was made to look like her.

The Elóhim balance of the masculine and feminine Divine powers! The Isis-Ra-El balance of masculine and feminine divine powers!

The Spirit is the deception of the Aeons. Which brings with it division.
For we are a whole of ONE; that is a balance of TWO things.

Body and soul.

This is the same balance of two that are as one; which is that of MALE and FEMALE in perfect union.

Perfect twin flames of Divine and pure love.

Or even the perfect love between two men, or two women!

Francis was right in what he said in this regard;
"Who are you to judge on the givings of another heart?"
It is there's to give as they heart desires in love
Just as yours is to you.

But to truly know who we are, we all have to become as living souls.
To make our body and soul as one. Without that of a 'spirit'.

GOSPEL OF THOMAS: 22:

"Jesus saw some infants who were being suckled. He said to his disciples: These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom. They said to him: If we then become children, shall we enter the kingdom? Jesus said to them: When you make the two one, and when you make the inside as the outside, and the outside as the inside, and the upper as the lower, and when you make the male and the female into a single one, so that the male is not male and the female not female, and when you make eyes in place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then shall you enter"

For the spirit is like a floodgate, placed between our natural balances.
It is the fence which is used by those such as the Church to keep us divided.
To prevent us from knowing our true self. And from knowing our inner power.
More so; it is way to measure reward offered to all who concede to them.

Those who 'Watch' over the Church are those described by Enoch,
Those are the 'Watchers' who should have never interfered with humanity.
They saw within us; the beauty of the soul which they did not understand.
And they decided that they wished to control that which was beyond their knowledge.

They are Eve who came upon the serpent, guarding the knowledge.
This was the knowledge of the soul; for the serpent knows of 'God'.
Eve was the dark feminine who replaced our true Mother of 'balance' Lilith. Who was then painted as evil,
She wanted to know the truth about what our souls were, who 'God' was.
But not for innocence. But because she wished to possess and control it.

She wished to BECOME GOD!

And even though the serpent of God guarded the tree of knowledge. Eve could not resist.
This is why Mary stands upon the serpent. Because she crucified it.
Killed it and placed it upon a stick; so that she could partake of its knowledge.
Your 'beloved' mother Mary-Eve; is not the victim within this. Nor is she your real mother.

You need know that it is the founders of your Church who are the evil you call 'Satan';
Who 'swooped in with a sickle and reaped' that which belonged to the saviours beloved.

HIS PERFECT AND BEAUTIFUL FEMININE BALANCE!

Know now why Leonardo Da Vinci's Last Supper, shows Peter with a sickle behind his back
And why Mary Magdalene, also called 'Thomas', is painted in perfect balance to Jesus.
Why Thomas is painted to appear feminine with the appearance of Mary Magdalene.
For Thomas is Mary; and Leonardo Da Vinci knew this.

For Didymos Judas Thomas is; Female twin, praised, Male Twin.

And it is the Peters, such as your current Pope; "Peter the Roman" who represent the thieves.
They are the 'Children who have settled in a field which does not belong to them'.
They are the money-changers in the Holy temple. Which have enraged God. (Vatican bank)
They are the salt which has run bland; and needs to be thrown out under foot.

GOSPEL OF THOMAS: 21

"Mariam said to Jesus: Whom are your disciples like? He said: They are like little children who have settled in a field which does not belong to them. When the owners of the field come, they will say: Leave us our field. They are naked before them, in order to leave it to them and give them (back) their field. Therefore I say: If the master of the house knows that the thief is coming, he will keep watch before he comes, and will not let him dig through into his house of his kingdom to carry off his things. You, then, be watchful over against the world; gird your loins with great strength, that the robbers may find no way to come at you. For the advantage for which you look, they will find. May there be among you a man of understanding! When the fruit ripened, he came quickly, his sickle in hand, and reaped it. He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

I have risen again through the body of the one true host.

You called him 'antichrist', when antioschristos means; 'Instead of Christ'
The Church knows this well; but did nothing to correct its people on this. Because they knew they were impure.
You called him 'angel of death', and considered this to mean he was the evil of God.
The Church knows; and so should you; that the man, the host; is named this because he was was willing to die without fear, with a heart of love for this world; to see darkness defeated.

He is the Jupiter Saboath; the Logos! The host of many you call; Lord of Hosts; or Lord of Lords.

Consider how badly it broke his heart; after doing this for all of you;
To then discover he was the one written of so badly within the Biblical texts.
He is the messenger (Angel) who gave his life; to know the truth.
Who faced death, and was resurrected; rather than concede to casting evil upon the world.

Know that Samael is not the Devil or Satan as he has been portrayed!
Know that Satan means 'Adversary of God', and that this refers to those of the Church
Those who push the 'Holy Spirit' of the false God. The men who made themselves Kings.

GOSPEL OF MARY

And Peter said, 'Did the Saviour really speak with a woman without our knowledge? Are we to turn about and all listen to her? Did he prefer her to us?'

And Levi answered, 'Peter, you have always been hot-tempered. Now I see you contending against the woman like an adversary. If the Saviour made her worthy, who are you indeed to reject her? Surely the Saviour knows her very well. That is why he loved her more than us.

MATTHEW 16:23

Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

You are perpetuating a system of Roman control. Full of filth contrary to God.
You have never represented God, merely a flawed interpretation of God.
None of the truly righteous can be born from within the Church
For they pledge fealty to the division that is 'The Spirit' of the Church.

All shall become as it should be. Time has its own way home.
The truth shall be exposed. Men shall know the truth of their hearts.
The masses are standing up and will be heard.
The corruption of men is to fall. And those at the top have the furthest to fall.

God shall see his feminine balance returned, as shall the host see his returned.
This will happen with, or without the honesty and repentance of the Church for its sins.
What comes is now beyond my hands. For I, as the host; have tried and been ignored.
My words have fallen upon deaf ears. And none have seen me.

None know from who I came because their hearts have been blackened.
This was never a contest between myself and the Churches of men.
It was merely an attempt to show them mercy, and to help them heal. Because I saw and heard the truth of righteousness they could not.

To HELP THEM, so they could become what they MUST become, but it was ignored.

I left them offerings in the Darwin Cathedral of my writings, music lyrics and teachings of wisdom, light and love.
They were ignored. So now I am lost to them.

Revelations speaks of the 'Revelation of truth' that shall be the end of the impure spirits that cast their filth upon the Church. It is not meant to be the end of the world. And will never come to anything of the sort; if they SET THE PEOPLE FREE!

The faith can be rebuilt AS IT SHOULD BE around the beauty contained within the existing doctrines. It does not need to come to the darkness and bloodshed they predict.

They need to tell the truth to the people and let them decide.

And to those of good and pure heart in this world and within their flock. Their honest and gift of such things to the people will make those who give it to them loved, for standing up for what they believe is right.

If it is given to them in honesty! For the want of letting them heal, and extinguishing the fires of the past Aeon.

And to the women within your Church; who are given back their Mother and equality in this world.

Those leagues of women within the Church who have recently been contesting and speaking out against the Church; will become their strongest and most devoted, loving allies; in rebuilding a faith based on truth.

For the people.

For peace, love, respect, harmony and Unity.

No house built on a poor foundation will ever stand the test of time. Regardless of how many times anyone attempts to fix it.

Sometimes a house must be stripped to its foundation; to ensure that what is then built upon it. Lasts for many generations to come.

JOHN 8

1but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.

2At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women.Now what do you say?” 6They were using this question as a trap,in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

9At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

11“No one, sir,” she said.

“Then neither do I condemn you,”Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

12When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

13The Pharisees challenged him, “Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid.”

14Jesus answered, “Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. 15You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. 16But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me. 17In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. 18I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”

19Then they asked him, “Where is your father?”

“You do not know me or my Father,” Jesus replied. “If you knew me, you would know my Father also.” 20He spoke these words while teaching in the temple courts near the place where the offerings were put. Yet no one seized him, because his hour had not yet come.

Dispute Over Who Jesus Is

21Once more Jesus said to them, “I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come.”

22This made the Jews ask, “Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, ‘Where I go, you cannot come’?”

23But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”

25“Who are you?” they asked.

“Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied. 26“I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is trustworthy, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.”

27They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father. 28So Jesus said, “When you have lifted upa the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me. 29The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him.” 30Even as he spoke, many believed in him.

Dispute Over Whose Children Jesus’ Opponents Are

31To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

33They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?”

34Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. 37I know that you are Abraham’s descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word. 38I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father.b ”

39“Abraham is our father,” they answered.

“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you wouldc do what Abraham did. 40As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41You are doing the works of your own father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”

Jesus’ Claims About Himself

48The Jews answered him, “Aren’t we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?”

49“I am not possessed by a demon,” said Jesus, “but I honor my Father and you dishonor me. 50I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. 51Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death.”

52At this they exclaimed, “Now we know that you are demon-possessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets, yet you say that whoever obeys your word will never taste death. 53Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?”

54Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. 55Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and obey his word. 56Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.”

57“You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”

58“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

THE WATERS (ABOVE THE FIRMAMENT - SKY) RUN RED IN JERUSALEM

SAMAEL IS HITTING THE CHURCH FOR NOT REVEALING THE TRUTH OF THE FEMININE, OR ACCEPTING HIS APOSTASY!

THE CHRIST WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CHURCH!! THIS IS TRUE

LET .. MY .. PEOPLE .. GO!!!

FROGS DYING IN IRELAND

ARCH OF VENUS AND TOMB COLLAPSE UNDER HEAVY RAIN IN ROMAN CITY OF POMPEII

YOU WANT TO KNOW OF CHRISTS REAL PROMISE?

THIS IS IT!! THAT HE WOULD DELIVER YOU FROM EVIL! AND THAT EVIL IS THE VERY CHURCH YOU PLEDGE TO!

Akragon .. Unusually quiet?

Where is your other usual 'Purple' cohort?? They are unusually quiet too!!

Still doubt me? I dare say that those colours are NOT befitting of you both any more.

I should let you know; that I am one that was actually born 'Samuel' with a last name meaning 'Farmer'!

I was confirmed into the Roman Catholic Church as the Saboath.

I am the Jupiter Saboath. Samael Saboath.

I am both your light AND dark. In one body!

But I am a whole lot more than just that. I am the host of many! Who will 'Be who needs to be'

I can now manifest and channel multiple entities at once. And we are as one. Body, Heart .. Mind, Soul.

We are of one purpose, we are of one understanding. We are many!

And we are VERY UNIMPRESSED WITH THIS WORLD!

We are very unimpressed with those bringing forth George Alexander Louis. SUCKING THE LIFE from this world!!

Their powers are being completely stripped! They are evil and pathetic!

Even their sages who have been tormenting me; now know. That I am FAR MORE THAN THEY EXPECTED!

That I channel powers beyond that they even knew existed. Those that are HERE .. NOW .. ABOVE US! AND BELOW US!

BREATHING DOWN YOUR NECKS.. MAKING SURE THIS WORLD IS PUT RIGHT! AND THE VATICAN IS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE!

ALL THE FAITHS BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE FOR THEIR LIES!

The house does not belong to them. AND IT WILL BE RECLAIMED!!