My son (16) came home frightened!! Black eyed non-human?

Thorneblood
I apologize for the confusion, but were the eyes black in the normal sense or physically hollow? As this would be something different then a traditional BEK/BEA

I first heard tell of a black/empty-eyed entity from someone who -- well, I don't know why this perception would ever strike her mind unless there were some good reason. She's the sort of person who you could hover an unknown aircraft directly over and she'd say isn't it a bit cloudy today.

In short, she was in Central Park -- I don't remember which part. She told me this story some 15 years ago. With friends. She saw what seemed to be an "old lady" figure on a bench. Right away she had that impression, that this only seemed to be the figure of an old lady. She thought it was perhaps someone carrying a lot of clothing, somehow an illusion. Then the thing looked at her. A lifelong skeptic and firm atheist, she offered no attempt to explain what she saw, but I have chills just remembering her description.

At first the eyes looked completely black. If she hadn't looked more closely, she'd have thought they were beetle-black. Then as she and her friends passed by, she realized the eyes were actually hollow, and that the "old lady" skin seemed to be somehow...draped, like a sheet for a ghost costume, only a human costume. She found this very difficult to articulate, yet I knew what she was trying to say. As if the face were a mask with eye holes but no eyes behind, and all of it was not quite right, somehow an imitation or illusion. She felt -- that is, she had the impression of this creature directing at them an enormous malevolence which was also predatory in some way, and she had an intense sense of wrongness -- just total wrongness. I think it smiled at her. I can't be sure now if I'm adding that detail, but I'm almost sure it did this -- as I now know -- commonly perceived thing of seeming to "smile" in a horribly "I see you too" kind of way.

The OP wrote: "a melancholy smile.. fake and disgusting". I thought of Poe's "The Haunted Palace", the last lines:

"...a hideous throng rush out forever
and laugh, but smile no more."

reply to post by MamaJ


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There is a merging of dimensions going on, where previously invisible entities now become visible to those with a higher vibration.

Every night, every single one of us goes out of body when we go to sleep (aka astral projects/oobe or obe Out of Body). We access different dimensions according to our vibration - created by our moods and feelings. The more negative emotions lower our vibrations and push us into the lower dimensions where the nasty entities live. They suck on our energy and love to scare and chase us etc. Conversely, thoughts of pure joy will elevate us to the higher dimensions where we meet benevolent ETs and entities etc.

In these dimensions, we are the most powerful things to ever exist, creating with pure thought. Eg. A nasty entity keeps bothering you, so you imagine spreading its atoms across the stars..and it will be so.

This is the truth that they don't want us to know.

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I honestly wouldn't be too frightened. I often wear blackout contacts to get people's reactions and I've seen some get just a frightened as what you describe your son as. Difference with me however is when I see someone get that terrified, I'll speak up and let them know they're contacts.

I do understand the concern, but you also have to realize that any non human beings like this will usually stay out of the public eye and not be in a place like Walmart.

woman walmart media.peopleofwalmart.com...

In the winter of 2000 I ended up working in a 24 hr porn shop in Calgary. My shift was 11pm to 7am on the trans Canada highway. The locals will know this spot. The usual biz was truckers and the scorned 2:30 crowd from the bars. One night at 4:30 am I will call him a "goul" entered the store. He was breathing really weird with loud labored breath. He looked at me in this unnatural way when he came in. I will never forget this guys eyes they were black , not in a psychedelic way which I'm familiar with; they were empty. A chill went up my spine that makes my eyes water just remembering it. He went straight to the back corner of the store and stayed there. I went to see what was up and to my horror I found a masturbating zombie cackling to his new found riches. He started jumping around making these insane noises that haunt me to this day.

I grabbed this guy by the hair and belt and marched him out of the store kicked the door open and threw him down the steps.

I locked the store and regrouped for 30 min in the back room.

This is no joke. There are some freaky souls in this plane.

i believe there was a show on wednesday nights last year....Paranormal Encounters or something like that. I remember there being an episode of black - eyed people. Couple at a motel or something approached by 4 black-eyed children. All wearing hoods. But no eyes. Lifeless. Just wanted your soul. Happened in the Southwest US i believe. But yes, i have heard of this before

I'm not saying this is the case here, but, a while back, I did encounter someone who was wearing black contact lens'. I googled it later, and sure enough you can buy some perty cool looking ones, so possibly, someone is just screwing with people? That was my assumption with the one I encountered. This is just me thinking out loud.

reply to post by MamaJ


It sounds like you are describing a friend of mine are you located in the south anywhere? TN, Georgia or Alabama? I can post a picture of him if you are.

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That is one of the weirdest stories I have ever heard! I don't know if I could approach someone like you describe in the act of pleasuring himself, much less grab hold of him to throw him out. Of course, I couldn't stand to just let him stay there and continue either... wow, what a spot you were in!

I've seen characters similar to what your son described. They come with this terrible feeling of suffocating dread and fear. I've not been able to place my finger entirely on who or what they are, but it definitely had me running for my life.

I saw mine when I was walking home from work at 2 in the morning. It was icy and cold, and I initially thought I saw someone in the trees. When I started walking faster, a rustling caught my attention. When I looked behind me I saw it coming out of the foliage, and I damn near lost my heart on the street. I ran 2 and a half miles home, didn't stop.

They're horrifying things to witness.

JayinAR
There is also the possibility that this person had tattooed eyeballs.

Yep, they do that now. Inject ink directly into the eye. Black hair, dark skin, most likely has darkly colored eyes to begin with. Inject the whites of the eyes with black ink and you just got hella creepy.

I'm not saying this was the case or not, however, I am extremely interested in this procedure. If I were to have this done, I most definitely would have some fun creeping people out in the exact same way.

Other body modifications I would enjoy having would further the effect as well.

So it wouldn't be surprising if an individual who has had this done, would do this.

SilentKillah
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I honestly wouldn't be too frightened. I often wear blackout contacts to get people's reactions and I've seen some get just a frightened as what you describe your son as. Difference with me however is when I see someone get that terrified, I'll speak up and let them know they're contacts.

I do understand the concern, but you also have to realize that any non human beings like this will usually stay out of the public eye and not be in a place like Walmart.

I was wondering if blackout contacts come in a matte finish. That might explain the 'empty' eyes feeling.

It's only natural to fear they unknown, especially if you're raised to believe in paranormal things.

If I saw someone with flat-black eyes, my heart would probably skip a few beats. It would take a while for my reasoning ability to kick in and consider the possibility of contacts.....especially if it had happened before I knew such things existed! lol

Does anyone know when this phenomenon first began? Are there any ancient legends, or folklore about it?

OK, so reading through many of these reports of BEKs, I have come to the conclusion that these dudes gotta be some sort of "demonic" presence.

Otherwise this stuff just doesn't make sense.
They only seem to appear to certain individuals. Otherwise you cannot explain why their appearance and what they are doing seems tailored to the person they are targeting. Ie, a woman driving down the road and seeing them pushing a van "out of gas", or appearing to a skateboarder with a skateboard of their own, etc. They do things to try and gain your trust. This is surely why they appear as kids often times,as people are inclined to want to help children.
They are apparently bad dudes, but they need your explicit permission to do anything bad. This is sorta odd, but it makes sense in a religious way because if they could just run around raising hell, this place would be pure chaos. There is a check in place.

Hmm.. I almost wanna see one. I would try and talk to it to find out more. They seem pretty forthcoming when asked direct questions, even if they are lying about their intentions. I wonder if anyone has ever flat out asked them what they intend to do once let inside.

Hmmm, never heard of such a thing. I'll be on the lookout, if I see one I'll bag it and let y'all know.

Earfling
Hmmm, never heard of such a thing. I'll be on the lookout, if I see one I'll bag it and let y'all know.

Haha! Tag 'em and bag 'em!
I wouldn't try that. Besides, I don't think it would do ya any good. They seem to have a habit of just vanishing.

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Well, sorry got too serious there. Can see you didn't mean that. Sometimes take things a little too seriously because am always aware of the suffering around me, and the way this world is being run on every level, and walmart is made as an attempt to entrap with karma. So are so many goods in the store, so if you have money, you can afford their cruelty free and their products that support third world families but otherwise you're stuck trying to provide what you can. But what these dark hats don't realize is that we live in democracies with constitutions, so if judges and politicians are allowing companies to cut corners and take advantage of other countries, without proper laws and regulations, then this isn't karma to the poor, this is simply criminal activity and blame individually on those companies doing this,ie its their murders, their crimes, and its also blame and karma on the political and judicial individuals allowing it. The people are supported by their constitution and belief in a country that works, where the good rights and laws work, and so their food is "consitutionally legal", and they remain karma free.

I'll give an example on their karma in another area. Human genetics in animals. So they discourage eating pork and dump karma on people, not only for possible gentic manipulations of the animals, but their grotesque food industry practices and slaughter houses.

Except that we have animal rights laws and we have constitutions. The people are karma free, expecting their elected employees to be serving the will of people and their well being, disclosing and revealing findings, science, technology and keeping everyone progressing and safe, otherwise the members of government are actually criminals, hijackers, and rogue.

All karma, they try to entrap with, goes back to the individuals cutting corners in their businesses and not conducting them with integrity.

These guys literally think they're lofty testers to us/testees, and was Hitler the bad guy, or the ones carrying out his bad orders. They really believe they're not responsible but the people are. However, the truth is, they're but TESTEES TOO, and intention of heart is everything. People pay taxes, and vote and support what they imagine is a good working structural government, not a bunch of satanic goons. That is the right belief system and positive one, so they're karma free. PERIOD.

People always spring every trap by their goodness and light/love. They sanctify the ground they walk upon. I mean this literally.

AD333
Hello Mama J and ATS.

I believe I had an experience I can relate to this several years ago. I am excited to reply to this post because I believe that with the help of ATS members (perhaps through someone with a modified search engine or maybe just better search skills than my own) we may be able to shine a little light on this mystery. "Impossible!" you say? Maybe not, the experience I write of was televised.
Please forgive any lack of writing style I may have while relating this to you all. Here are the basic search parameters: Year: 2005-2007, unfortunately the best I can do to narrow down the possible time is a 3 year period. Channel: Pretty certain it was Mtv, however, not being very familiar with tv it could have been Mtv2. Time: Thanksgiving day, afternoon - evening. Content theme: Thanksgiving eating competition. Several contestants competitively eating thanksgiving themed food items.
To further narrow it down - you will know the episode when you find it because the contestant looks like this:


No, it was not Jim Carrey. But the guy had his hair done (I kid you not) almost exactly like this.
But back to the story, here is what happened...
Thanksgiving day several years ago I was enjoying a celebration with several close friends and family members. We were all gathered at a friends house where, waiting for dinner, some were socializing, some cooking, others infrequently chasing after toddlers.
It has been two decades since I have had t.v./cable or programming (oh the irony) of that sort. When at an acquaintances house where they watch television I sometimes enjoy watching the bright lights and flashing colors XD but generally leave the encounter glad that I gave t.v. up. At any rate given the amount of other activity in the house I may very well have been the only one there to have been watching the tube at this particular time.
So I'm watching this display of competitive eating, and in an effort to be transparent I will say it was making me uncomfortable as I was thinking how well a lot of people in this country have it especially relating to this particular holiday. Not at all to discourage the premise of a shared feast (what could be better?) but the extent that an eating competition goes to - thanksgiving themed no less seemed like a particular display of gluttony to me.
Several contestants are eating massive amounts of food. One contestant has his hair styled like "equinsu ocha" or 'white devil' from Ace Ventura. I have seen several eating competitions and have witnessed the professionals utilizing various techniques to get the food down faster.

Competitive eaters also learn techniques to speed up the eating process. For example, Shoudt says he hops up and down to accelerate the swallowing process with gravity, and he sometimes presses against his stomach to push food lower into the abdomen. Some eaters use a move called the Valsalva Maneuver..

Source

As "white devil' uses his version of this technique his bodily movements start to become more of a sinuous, serpentine type undulating that I tend more to associate with trance movement or perhaps drug induced trance. While this happens the camera is catching his face, and where his eyes were perfectly normal before they are now completely black.
If this were not a competition type event it may be argued that between frames or 'takes' this guy could have put in colored lenses. But the fact that it's supposed to be actual competition precludes that kind of tampering as it would effect the outcome of the competition as well. Could what I had seen been affected by my perception at the time? Certainly, and in fact I would have doubted my own eyes if the commentator (providing play by play - or bite by bite as it were - running commentary) hadn't himself drawn attention the the fact.
What the commentator pointed out was "hugely dilated pupils" with no further explanation as to what would cause this. But what I saw was black covering the entire surface of his eyes, not just the pupil area. And to be sure, the commentator sounded confused more than anything and seemed more to be trying to explain things to himself. It was both stunning and revolting and instilled a feeling in the pit of the stomach just viewing it over t.v.
What did I see? Hard to say. I think of myself as both a spiritual and scientific minded person. I could put forth many theories as to what I may have seen or perceived. But more importantly, I believe, is that if someone can dig this footage up it may help to explain what it is NOT. Along the lines of verifying who the individual is- real? human? Then it's probably not aliens ...and so forth. But perhaps evidence more along the lines of 'Did it actually happen?' would be welcome first.
And this is where I ask for your help ATS. I've enjoyed reading these forums for quite some time and am constantly amazed at the content members have shared. I have not before today spoken of this experience with anybody. I hope I have not detracted or derailed from this thread. I was pretty surprised to see it and had never heard of BEK's and such. I thought this is just something they do in horror flicks at times, and it had never occurred to me to try and correlate this with others who may have had similar experiences. Thank you MamaJ for the willingness to put yourself forth, perhaps giving me an incentive to do the same.
If anybody can dig up this footage I would be in debt and I'm sure others would find it interesting as well. I have tried several times with absolutely no luck at all =(

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From your description, I did some googling.... I think the guy you are looking for is this guy:

Also competing will be the oddly coiffed, "El Toro" Jiminez, the Las Vegas resident whose hair is fashioned into horns.

from: www.azreporter.com...


Here is his "eats feats" page: eatfeats.com...

Here is a kind of ridiculous video that I honestly couldn't watch more than a minute of... but it features this guy. His hair isn't in horns here, but maybe you can see if you recognize him anyway. This is from 2007, so about the time you thought you saw him on MTV



He does have dark eyes, so I can see how it might be easy for it to look like it was blacked out.


OP- Love this thread. You are an awesome mom. Did you son ever go back to Wal-mart to talk to the clerk?

your son was on '___'

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I'm in TN.... are you serious?

If you have a friend that looks like what he describes I would love to see this.

Thanks!

EDIT: I came on too strong and just don't want to be in an offensive mode. Maybe your son really did see something supernatural or out of this world. That's for you to decide. I can't speak for your son. And there really are mysteries in our universe, even if the principle ones we're exposed to are mostly explainable. We just can't begin to pretend we know everything there's to know. The universe is still so much bigger in its spatial and temporal dimensions.