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^That's like the 4th time this member has posted that randomly...
reply to post by darkbake
Ummm...I really don't think it has anything to do with your assertion that..."those not claiming to be liberal"...believe that..."liberals are the only ones to get offended". I think that it's more a commentary on the USE of "being offended" as one of the cornerstone tools of the movement.
reply to post by Buttonlip
Ummm...Ha,Ha,Ha....Ha,Ha,Haaaaaa........Wow, you sure do provide some much needed comic relief in this debate......You need to realize that I'm not offended or hurt or angry...
I'm simply passing the time trying to relieve some boredom at my fave entertainment outlet so unbunch your panties and relax..............and...welcome to ATS
The political parties are just an illusion, they all have the same agenda - which is to protect the financial elite, for whom they work. The mass media, mainstream economists, health specialists, scientists - they all work for the same people - the owners of the western anglo-american empire - the financial elite.
I agree with everything you said minus your statement about science. That is quite ethnocentric. The vast majority of scientists dwell outside the US. They have no affiliation to our political parties nor corporate leaders. Science in on the few pure things we have left as it is an amalgamation of many different political view points, religious beliefs, and cultural backgrounds.
For that matter, most of the world accepts science. It is here in the US where we have the most deniers of it. There is no liberal or GOP science. Science is far larger than the US.
I think who benefits from freedom of speech the most would be answered by asking a different question. Who benefits the least by freedom of speech; the people at the top.
Huh????? The people at the top benefit least? Please explain.
Free speech is often criticism
I strongly disagree with you in this respect - and this is a common misconception, that science is somehow 'pure' and not corrupted by money, influence, monopoly.
The entire scientific apparatus has been developed into a pyramid style structure, where scientific authority, reputation and credibility are a reward for supporting the 'standard models'. Those standard models are the way in which science is presented to the general population as if it were gospel. The penalty for attacking this standard view is marginalization at the minimum, or career or literal death at the extreme.
The puppets who have their faces splashed everywhere, and those who generally considered to be the 'top men' or authority are working to promote the globalists visions - they are not doing science.
The following is a list of things that have been influenced and corrupted by the financial elite that are fairly well known and easily re-searchable;
Climate - warming or cooling (a graduate in any science can research this easily themselves and the conclusions are concrete)
GMO's - a great deal of scientific evidence covered up for a long time
Flouridation of water - massive amount of cover-up
Nuclear energy - huge amounts of money pumped into it to support bad technology for purpose of weapons manufacture
Cannabis - bad science used to prevent its widespread competition with drugs and paper manufacture
Now, in addition I will give you some more extra-ordinary things, which you will likely find unbelievable;
Cold fusion - Ponsman and Fleisch were massacred by big oil - some unknown process was discovered and concealed
Relativity/field equations - this utter rubbish was sponsored to lock in the fossil fuel monopoly and prevent the disclosure of advanced energy and propulsion technology
Einstein is a fraud - a poster boy for the globalists and has set physics back nearly 100yrs and counting - why is he so famous? Matter energy equivalence might be a pretty big deal, but his fame is out of place with his so called discoveries - the fame around him was created to ensure that his theories could not be attacked, and those who challenged him could more easily be dismissed.
The concept to grasp here is that when you get to the extremes of left or right ideology they become mirror images of themselves. They function pretty much the same.
The concept to grasp here is that when you get to the extremes of left or right ideology they become mirror images of themselves. They function pretty much the same. Right down to concept of restricting freedom of speech. A moderate liberal isn't going to like your politically incorrect terms, but they aren't going to try and stop you from saying them. A moderate religious conservative isn't going to like you criticising his religion, but he isn't going to try and stop you from stating your opinions or arguments. These moderates are probably just not going to be your friends or associate with you. That's about it.
Free speech should be exercised and respected by all.
By the way. Liberals = conservatives = democrats = republicans = Pile of Shi...
reply to post by darkbake
The thing is, conservatives really don't understand liberal thinking at all.
Hence, they do their best to grasp liberal thinking with false generalization.
Even a popular anti-progressive thread today clearly shows this.
reply to post by jimmyx
There should be limits, but those should not be imposed by law. It used to be that decent people understood the notions of common decency and respect. You shouldn't seek to call him whatever kind of pervert you want, and he extend the same courtesy.
Understand I am not talking about disagreement or expressing views that disagree. Too often these days, expressing a view that disagrees with someone else, especially if we're talking about social issues, is considered "hate" even if it's not.