reply to post by NoRulesAllowed
Just thought I would speak for the minority ? - I mean those who never play computer games.
I have never been interested in computer games and ,to be honest, I have difficulty in understanding the addiction to things such as Xbox and
Playstation. It is scary to see how people are so taken over by virtual games. Apparently it is even worse in countries such as Japan.
Ironically, I consider the gamers to be the real-life zombies. It is really sad that so many clever people have fallen prey to the virtual world and
have effectively stopped "living".
Why do people do it ? In my view it could be a subconscious acknowledgment of failure to shape their environment. Sadly the more they retreat into the
virtual world, the more it becomes difficult to impose the will on the surroundings.
While I can respect your perspective, I think it comes off as a bit naive/ignorant because you can't understand it. I guess I feel this way about
people who drink alcohol, so I have empathy to your lack of comprehension towards people enjoying something you don't.
While -some- people may be addicted, wanting to engage in a hobby you enjoy is common. Do you have such disdain towards an individual that would
spend as much time surfing? What about playing sudoku with a pen? People that waste their off days at a beach? What about wasting time and money at
expensive movies ($60, two people, two hours)? What about the people who are obsessed with watching sports ... you know, spending thousands on seats
for a game, hundreds for game parties or jerseys, superbowl betting, etc?
Are these people subconsciously acknowledging their failure at shaping their environment because they do things that I might find wasteful?
I'd consider the real life zombies to be the ones who can't choose for themselves; or mindlessly continue the rat race, participating in the
commercialism. The ones who follow MSM and pick sides all the time like life is a game, and they forget the people all this division affects. You
are being divisive against people who play games because it is different and outside your personal preference, and instead of trying to understand,
you attacked. You assume they are no-lifers because you think they are wasting away.
See, I understand your viewpoint, I've dealt with it before. My mother, before she passed, was trying to be insistent that I 'get out more'. I
like to be at home. I like to relax in my own house. I don't mind going somewhere now and then, but I have no drive to be at a beach every weekend,
or to drive around all the time. I DID that, when I was a teenager. My wife and I enjoy being at home. Our kids are too young to do a lot of the
park/beach stuff. We will take them, it is healthy; but if they want to play games? GREAT! because I will find educational games for them. If they
want to be on a computer? Wonderful, typing is a great skill to learn young and a well set up parental controlled user will give me peace of mind
about what they find.
It isn't what you do, but the state of mind you have when you do it.
Games in general aren't about violence. Most games are about being a hero. There are a lot of violent games. I knew someone who was in Iraq. He
was having a lot of issues back home. He started playing Call of Duty; and it helped him psychologically. Prior to CoD, he was jumpy, he'd react to
rocks on the road (fear of them being IEDs). After playing CoD in his free time, he mellowed out. The video games helped heal his mental wounds.
Now, I'm not into those FPS games, but I can respect the fact people like them and that it is good for some people, the same as I don't like
war/military movies. I don't like horror movies or zombie movies, so I don't care for games of that genre either. I do play high fantasy games,
simulation games, simple fun games, etc. I spend nearly nothing on games these days though.
The average gamer, spends less on their hobby than most others. They spend less than the sports fan. They spend less than an RC vehicle hobbyist.
They spend less than the people who go to the movie theatre. They get more value for their money than most other hobbyists. And, if they play an
'MMO', they can get more social activity than the average person involved in their hobby, with a much larger pool of people. Some of those MMO
servers have 10-20,000 people on them. There could be thousands of people they interact with at any moment. That is a lot more than the guy drinking
beer watching the Packers while eating a cheese and sausages. Or more than the person basking in the sun ignoring the other beach goers. More
interaction than you get while watching a movie at the theatre.
Games aren't for everyone. But other than water, food, and shelter, nothing is meant for everyone, not even love/companionship. Some people are
happier alone. Gaming isn't a anti-social things for most people either. Many people not only type to each other, but use Skype or a VOIP to
communicate, making it quite social. It may be hard for older people to comprehend, but it is the future. It is live, instant group calls to people
around the world, even including video. People make friends this way now. It is valid for them to do so.
People that play MMOs spend 3-4 hours with up to 39 other people trying to cooperate and achieve goals together several nights a week. That is quite
social, and healthy for most of them.
I'd never make assumptions towards others and their happiness like they have been made to me; because I don't like to drink, don't like bars/clubs,
and don't care to socialize with random people or befriend the people I meet for no good reason. I've been told I was wrong because I keep a very
small circle, and I felt pity for that person who believed I needed to share myself with the world to be happy.
I've never met anyone who called a gamer a zombie before though. While I can see why, I am saddened because it is an example of the battles left
ahead for humanity in people accepting each other and what another enjoys doing even if it is something one doesn't understand or relate to
To the one who asked if TSW is a replacement for WoW ... if you go into a game trying to compare it to something else, you are doing yourself and the
new game a disservice. This is the problem a lot of new games in the genre are having, getting compared to the elephant in the room.
If you are looking for MMOs, Rift is free and the events are great for encouraging social cooperation, but I personally stopped because of the grind
at high level. Tera is free and has no tab targeting and you have to dodge everything 'action' based combat, looks pretty. Star Wars: The Old
Republic has the best story immersion of any MMO, like playing a movie; though free, the experience is better had paying for it though not necessary.
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn is quite fun, and the one I'd pay a subscription to first; the atmosphere, lighting, world is great, especially if
an old FF fan. I would highly recommend any of those; but none will 'replace' WoW. They are separate and independent and should be played as such,
with a clean slate. Have fun