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reply to post by tsingtao
It's extremely relevant, we're basically saying that the British settlers didn't come to America and sit down with the Native Americans and smile and pass plates of corn on the cob to each other. It was just told that way to make the Pilgrims look like good guys. To be fair, there perhaps was a group of settlers who did make peace with a tribe of Indians and had thanksgiving with them (also thanksgiving actually originating in England, so that was not technically the first), however, the rest of America had a much more bloody story to tell in regards to the meeting of Natives and settlers.
reply to post by Nephalim
I'm emotionally attached to history and information, information should not be suppressed no matter the source. You say I am demonising myself, but my ancestors are not me. How would I know that forced Imperialism was a bad thing unless I had studied the brutal results of past attempts? Without the history to study, I could (perhaps) think that Imperialism could be successful at bringing peace, maybe a bad example but I feel like it makes my point. When you start picking the bits of history that makes your people look like saints and all others like thugs, then discard all information to the contrary... Do you not see the potential for corruption and abuse in that?
"He who controls the past, controls the future. He who controls the present, controls the past."
Ahh, I see. Yea I try not to be rude, sometimes it just comes out and other times; folks don't leave you much of a choice. Its common place on line; you know the deal.
I'm curious, you say you're a British man, and you're bringing this up. You know, British history and British treatment of the world. I don't know what to make of that. I'm digging for your point. You just want us to include this view of history in our books? Is that all? British "brutality or Imperialism" of sorts...
As the current generation of Britain, do you feel responsible at all for this "imperialism" or.. I mean. Because its curious to see someone demonize basically, themselves. I cant put my finger on that one. Are you emotionally attached to this subject?edit on 30-11-2013 by Nephalim because: (no reason given)
Well, Most native Indians didn't die due to genocide.
They died mostly by a pandemic.
Did the settlers mean to pass on diseases such as small pox? No they didn't.