reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Let's forget about the earth, the moon, the sun, the planets and the starry skies then, and talk about what heaven means and signifies, beyond that of
merely a sci-fi fanstasy to be born into a sinless world, somewhere else, even anywhere other than here
, God forbid! because we cannot stand
what has become of the human being.
Let us consider heaven for an actual reason other than an escape from earth, or from hell for that matter, because if heaven is what is true and real
and entirely reasonable, even joyful and triumphant, then where is the fear of either hell or escape from earth to be found..?
Where is the fear of death? The fear of insignificance, of annihilation - if we are already included because it pleased God to share for the sake of
"we"? Where is it and what is it (our fear) then but an absurdity?
Can we laugh at hell and at the devil? You're damn right we can.
That's the devil's problem with mankind and with Jesus Christ, you see, that ours, even being last or most recent (examines monkey body), is the
greater glory and the promise, at his expense really too, because it was what "he" forsook to try to snatch all glory for himself (a very foolish
move, when everything is already shared now and forever), if we are to accept that the myth or folklore of "the evil one" whom Jesus himself, in his
great prayer in John
, did indicate that he was protecting us from, those
"given to him" as the Good Shepherd by God via our recognition, faith and love, willingness and sympathetic mutuality and understanding in/with him
wherever he is or may have gone, and still exists! The Spirit never changes, you see, but if it's been "processed" for our mutual enjoyment in the
form of a human being who is also God, well then that's a "meal" (potential grokking
) you can really sink
your teeth into, and drink, and be merry / totally enjoy (be fully satisfied with) in whatever form it might take, whether in this life, from life to
life in an almost infinite cosmos, or in heaven above (the "waters" above
What we are in need of therefore, is more courage, and more passion, and even more desire, more hope, more trust and the willingness to love more and
to be loved by God more, loved and fully accepted even in spite of ourselves - then it doesn't matter anymore, and we can say to God "thy will be
done" trusting in him for what is best (as Jesus taught us) and that he knows how to unfold the eternal life as it relates to we ourselves as we are;
whether to reincarnate here there or anywhere; to resurrect; whereby our every hearts desire has it's authentic expression and in so doing glorify
both God, our selves and everyone else; to become an ensconced Saint (not sure how fun that would be..), or an immortal angel of God, without the
possibility of another fall, because it's just not in the shape of our innermost heart's desire to belong and to be known and to know, and
inter-relate with others in a heavenly society (can you imagine?!).
For God all things are possible.
"There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, in the end, 'Thy will be
~ C.S. Lewis, "The Great Divorce"
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