Abducted by Uncle Sam - Coming To A Bedroom Near You?

reply to post by 1ofthe9

Its right in line with my readings on occultism actually. You might be interested in the Chaos Magick writings on servitors and egregores...

Send a link if you will.. but i'm not an occultist of course..
but I'll read some of that stuff sometimes.. it might
have a tiny kernel of truth in it somewhere.

reply to post by 1ofthenine


Oh you might be interested to know.. I've been around much of
the world.. even past the northern polar zone.. and never in
my entire life have I ever seen a 'UFO'. I don't expect to see
one.. Now.. I've seen a number of 'spiritual creatures' - I
am not surprised to see those.

Now I have had 2 'spiritual abduction experiences apparently..
(in the form of night terrors with way too much detail)..
but I don't really care about those either.. *yawn*

I also am not surprised by accidentally reading minds and
seeing remote locations sometimes.. I don't want to do
that.. but it happens...

people often confuse me for a skeptic! I have NO DESIRE
to see aliens or UFOs as I feel as a mystic I can just'
'tune into them' whenever I want.. I'm a good 'proof' of
my own theory about PSP's... I don't want to physically
see them as that is BS. So I have 'feeling UFO experiences'
as that's what I'm open to!

LOL

KPB

reply to post by 1ofthenine


I read your link on chaosmagic. Yah, this is pretty standard stuff
for the genre of 'magick'. I suppose it's fair to say that in that
language it's obvious that souls are exactly that - egregore
and eventually join up into 'god-forms' (the Christian heaven
would be one example of 'joining the Christian collective'.
But of course that's just a sub-portion of the Ra collective..
I wonder if 'Ra' is a dick and traumatizes the Christians who
think that they've died and gone to heaven.. it wouldn't
surprise me.. he can be such a Dick. Would it really hurt
him to let them have their delusion? I suppose terror
extracts maximal energy transfer.. of course those are
'souls' and not 'people'. People are not 'souls' - that's
the big deception. Still.. what an ass.

For example Christianity has both a 'god' and a 'satan/Lucifer/Devil'
egregore/god-form out there. They've been busy building them for centuries.
I wouldn't be surprised if those two sometimes turned into a spaceship
or light blob sometimes too. If you can't get more worshippers in church,
chase down the atheists in the street as a UFO and get your hooks into
him or her..

I have a medium-type friend who thinks that that he's some sort of combination
of a Tao immortal - Jesus - Buddha in training, and he constantly talks about
feeling several of those 'thought forms' --- simultaneously.. one would think
that they would be mutually exclusive.. but nope..

Mildly interesting.

KPB

reply to post by KellyPrettyBear


Of course you wont see ufos cause they cloak. And you wont see aliens that like to hide underground or in cloaked ships. This means both ufos and aliens are real but they dont want to be seen.

A lot of people say....well where the hell are they?...you are crazy for believing!

EarthCitizen07
reply to post by KellyPrettyBear

 

Of course you wont see ufos cause they cloak. And you wont see aliens that like to hide underground or in cloaked ships. This means both ufos and aliens are real but they dont want to be seen.

A lot of people say....well where the hell are they?...you are crazy for believing!

If you say so.

KPB

reply to post by KellyPrettyBear

If you could please explain:"I don't want to physically see them(ufo's) as that is bs" I am curious as to why you would suppose actually seeing ufo's with one's physical eyes would be bs? Not picking an argument,just curious.I have seen ufo's,as has every member of my family.We are'nt great mystics,yet we saw them,myself alone on more occasions than my family.My husband saw a craft just the other day,There's been a lot of ufo activity here in the past 2+half years,I just decided to not write about it anymore,it serves no purpose.Why would you consider seeing them, to be bs,as opposed to feeling them? Or did you mean for You personally it would be bs to see them with your physical eyes?
Just trying to understand what you meant,to avoid misunderstanding.A happy day to you.

reply to post by Raxoxane


Great question; and your question has the answer in it! How delightful!

Mystics don't neef to see UFOs -they are already in contact with "those forces" which materialize those UFOs -- apparently in part to recruit people who might not believe in a spirits.

Now let me ask you this research question: after you see a classic ufo does a ball of light visit you?

My guess is no due to how you are 'teasing me' the answer would be no.

BTW - im relatively a beginner at the level im working at to solve this ufo thing. It's been a nice challenge.

Thanks great question.

KPB

reply to post by The GUT


I could post this in my own disinfo thread, but I humbly request that our respected and tireless colleague of all things ufo respond to this:

"The human PTB would control world religion if it could. (It can't).

The human PTB would control world spirituality if it could. (It can't).

The human PTB would control world science If it could (it can't).

But if the human PTB makes a deal with the "invisible spiritual forces" to materialize spaceships and to follow up with visits by light balls and spiritual abductions so the baddies get "paid" and the PTB gets universal control by turning ufo "savior s" into universal world religion..
Then both the human and "other" PTB gets its way with us.

Now this is not a new theory.

But the spiritual pieces are making themselves obvious. And I believe that government black ops craft make good fake ufos to "seed" ufo mania in countries and cultures with strong "other beliefs".

But the "alien PTB gets "paid" either way so they are willing to play along with the human PTB to consolidate both of their power through an eventual unified mythology.

Of course the human PTB is being played and I laugh at their foolishness.

That's my "near final" analysis.

KPB

KellyPrettyBear
reply to post by The GUT

 

I could post this in my own disinfo thread, but I humbly request that our respected and tireless colleague of all things ufo respond to this:

"The human PTB would control world religion if it could. (It can't).

The human PTB would control world spirituality if it could. (It can't).

The human PTB would control world science If it could (it can't).

But if the human PTB makes a deal with the "invisible spiritual forces" to materialize spaceships and to follow up with visits by light balls and spiritual abductions so the baddies get "paid" and the PTB gets universal control by turning ufo "savior s" into universal world religion..
Then both the human and "other" PTB gets its way with us.

Now this is not a new theory.

But the spiritual pieces are making themselves obvious. And I believe that government black ops craft make good fake ufos to "seed" ufo mania in countries and cultures with strong "other beliefs".

But the "alien PTB gets "paid" either way so they are willing to play along with the human PTB to consolidate both of their power through an eventual unified mythology.

Of course the human PTB is being played and I laugh at their foolishness.

That's my "near final" analysis.

KPB

I can't speak for GUT or the others, but that is indeed in line with what I have inferred. The psywar guys have been interested in Marian apperitions - so if Vallee is right and the same force is behind the BVM and UFOs...

reply to post by 1ofthe9


Define your acronyms and terms please?

Don't forget that I intuit not research. I've read close to zero on these subjects.

KellyPrettyBear
reply to post by 1ofthe9

 

Define your acronyms and terms please?

Don't forget that I intuit not research. I've read close to zero on these subjects.

Which ones? BVM = Blessed Virgin Mary. Psywar = psychological warfare.

reply to post by 1ofthe9


Oh gotcha. Bvm and the vision thing.
Gotcha now.
Thanks.

Questions?
I wonder what the PTB will do with us once they send their UFO messiah and convert everybody?
Or worse, open up the Fema camps!

What will people busy themselves doing?

Is their any degree of humanity and good intentions in the PTB plot(s)?

Is it possible they have our interests at heart?

Observation:
I once read on a forum a Buddhist devotee write in response to a UFOnaut:
It doesn’t matter whether aliens come and go, or whether they have big heads or little heads, or 4 or 6 fingers....I still have to attain Nirvana!

reply to post by Willtell


You've got some good questions there! And just trying to
get up to the point of an alien messiah & robot overlords
is quite an intellectual leap as it is.

Now the usual thoughts would be that once all the
intelligence and 'essence' they need has been farmed
from all 9 billion of us (or whatever the number is
by then), then they will kill us off until there are less
than 1 billion of us left. I've heard that kill us off
story in various forms. It almost seems inevitable
if we are just cattle to 'them' that there are too
many cattle for this 'grazing range'. Can 9 billion
be sustained if we want to? Yah. But it's probably
a bit of a pain to keep levels like that for a long
time.

Frankly? Once our geniuses have developed the
tech to support their 'minds', then they probably
don't need all that 'spiritual juice'. They probably
can just kill us off to less than 1 billion.

But if this whole theory is wrong.. that we aren't
some form of food.. well then the human PTB
would still want to kill most of us off.. if automation
handles most things, then THEY would want to
get us 'worthless humans' killed down to less than
1 billion. The PTB only see 'us' as a resource to
be managed or eliminated when not needed..
I think most people understand this by now.

So that just leaves your comment about your
Buddhist friends.. and I'd pretty much agree
with them.. only.. there are those who think
that we are in this loop, where nobody or almost
nobody is allowed to 'ascend out of here' -
that we are all trapped in an illusion, and an
illusion of 'reincarnation' and an illusion of
'ascension' for a very few and perhaps an
'illusion of dying and going to heaven' too.

Now if THAT is true.. then we really are
blorked up royaly. Now *I* don't feel
trapped.. but you know.. nobody died
and made me Buddha either.. I'm
still holding back from something apparently.

KPB

KellyPrettyBear

Now let me ask you this research question: after you see a classic ufo does a ball of light visit you?

I would say men in black visit you.

A black cadillac drives up to your home, two guys dressed in black suits knock on your door seemingly polite, you open the door and invite them in, they sit at your couch and tell you that "I know you think you saw a flying saucer, BUT you really did NOT! You saw a 737 boeing on final approach to land. Ok? Dont make me come back now or you might suffer some unfortunate event." The guys ask to leave, they get in their black cadillac and make off. You are shell shocked for years after that.

This is what happens sometimes.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Earthy,

You appear to have a radically different point of view than
nearly anyone else I've seen post on this site. Now various
people may think similar thoughts as you, but as you've said,
you are so 'unapologetic and enthusiastic' even when what
you say might deny gravity or light or oxygen or whatever,
that it's really hard to have a conversation with you
sometimes. Now, I know that various people must feel
that same way about me.. so I'm not saying anything
bad about you.. but I'm just explaining why you may
get less responses to what you say than you might like.

Is that fair?

KPB

reply to post by KellyPrettyBear


So you hold out no possibility that the “overlords” aliyen or merely hu-man aren’t invested with any transcendent insight or even any mildly good intentions (good intentions being defined as some form of selfless intent).

Then we are either food for the ego or the stomach?

It makes everything so pedestrian and uninteresting.

Though I guess that would be fitting Karma!

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


In my research I firmly believe in those sinister "Men in Black" being a fact.

Very earthly orientated consciousness with certain powers beyond the human capacity

Even the great Beast himself, Aleister Crowley, commented on the “black brothers” and their suppressing free thought.

So we have 3 kinds: The ET’s, us, whoever and whatever the hell we are (I imagine terrestrials) and the black brothers who we can call inter-terrestrials.

reply to post by Willtell


People crap up the world; people let assholes stay permanently in power; people believe in such nasty crap for so long that it even materislizes; then when finally the chickens come fully home to roost then everyone cries out for 'god' 'human saviors' or good aliens (same role) to save them. Well good luck with that. Maybe all of those 'people' are out helping people with less of a death wish someplace else.

reply to post by KellyPrettyBear


What can we expect? People act according to their nature

A savior is only an easy fantasy. A fantasy is an escape from our fears

Humans are weak. I only condemn the oppressors myself. Since we all are in the same boat. We should help each other, is my feeling.

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