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g146541
reply to post by mysterioustranger
I can see some use for mixing up rounds while training.
For revolvers we would leave cylinders empty to watch for flinching, and about the same can be done with a pistol.
Use target loads and combat rounds mixed up and watch for flinches.
But for every day carry,... If you have to really penetrate anything, you might consider carrying a rifle.
Or just leave the situation.
Don't overthink too much, K.I.S.S.
winofiend
reply to post by H1ght3chHippie
So this is a self defence scenario.. and you're shooting through things to kill someone.
How many of you guys have actually killed people?
THis is just god damned scary....
so i guess it could have its uses but more for scenarios that we as citizens are not likely to encounter
He swept it from one end to the other, reloaded, and continued. Every window in the Oldsmobile disintegrated as the copper jacketed bullets tore through. Beckwith had stagger- loaded the magazines with hardball and Remington 115 gr. jacketed hollowpoints. The tires deflated with an audible hiss. Beckwith saw the surviving perps moving away from the vehicle. Now the big danger was being shot instead of being run down. A second empty S&W magazine hit the ground, and Beckwith opened another burst of diversionary fire with a third stick. The perpetrators had enough. He saw them run around the corner of the building. He took a cover position and waited. The first police car pulled into the scene approximately one minute later. To Beckwith, it seemed as if he waited an hour. However, reconstruction of the incident would show that it had been only three minutes from when the alarm sounded to when the first responding Alachua County deputy made it into the gunshop. The incident itself had lasted less than two minutes. During that time, Harry Beckwith had fired 105 shots.
JohnnySasaki
This is wrong. Even with small caliber pistol rounds (and yes, even hollow points), the bullet is going to pass through just about anything, including whatever's behind it. In the movies, everything seems to stop bullets. I've seen, on quite a few occasions, people spraying bullets into a couch and have the person hiding behind it come out unscathed. That's a joke. You're going to need quite a bit of dense material in between you and the bullet if you have any hope of stopping it. A wall is not enough. Neither is a car, unless the engine is between you and the bullet, and even then it only takes a medium power rifle to punch through the engine block.
So, if you don't know what you're talking about, please don't pretend like you do online and try and give people advice. They're liable to take it. This is how you end up with so many ignorant people. It's one thing about anything else, but on the subject of gun handling, and self defense scenarios, please leave it to people who know what they're talking about. Just about everyone in this thread seems to have an opinion on the subject, and just about every post I've read is wrong in some form or another.
mwood
JohnnySasaki
This is wrong. Even with small caliber pistol rounds (and yes, even hollow points), the bullet is going to pass through just about anything, including whatever's behind it. In the movies, everything seems to stop bullets. I've seen, on quite a few occasions, people spraying bullets into a couch and have the person hiding behind it come out unscathed. That's a joke. You're going to need quite a bit of dense material in between you and the bullet if you have any hope of stopping it. A wall is not enough. Neither is a car, unless the engine is between you and the bullet, and even then it only takes a medium power rifle to punch through the engine block.
Small caliber pistol rounds WILL NOT "pass through just about anything". I have had FMJ 9mm rounds not even go all the way though a refrigerator door (thin sheet metal with 1/2" insulation and a plastic inside layer. I have seen 9mm. FMJ AND HP's not come close to going through a car door and ending up inside the door rattling around and what "
"medium power" rifle will punch an engine block...??? A .50 BMG? Show me ANY normal hunting rifle that will go clean through an engine block...in one side and out the other...