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What does "Man" mean to you?
Hardworking, Honest, Dependable, Trustworthy, Loyal, Kind, Cheerful when most other outlooks point other ways, Helpful, Skilled, Gets up at the crack of dawn to get the job done, Makes sure there's food in the bellies and love's his family unconditionally even when there being tyrants, Teaches and not preaches, Strong and Gentle.
What does "Man" mean to you?
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What does "Man" mean to you?
Hardworking, Honest, Dependable, Trustworthy, Loyal, Kind, Cheerful when most other outlooks point other ways, Helpful, Skilled, Gets up at the crack of dawn to get the job done, Makes sure there's food in the bellies and love's his family unconditionally even when there being tyrants, Teaches and not preaches, Strong and Gentle.
Reads Dr. Suess's Green eggs and ham to much as that's what my initial response sounded like...
I will not eat green eggs and ham, sam I am
I will not eat them here, nor there
I will not eat them anywhere!!!
All the attributes are you always ?
These are positive qualities considered distinctive of a human being.
So when you get angry are you "angry" or are you still "I am a man"?
When you are in deep sleep you are not displaying any these qualities ( you are not self conscious) then what do you identify with?
When you were a small child you did not think who you were was [a loving husband and father], yet you still were, being without identifying yourself as" a quality" of man.
A good quote from talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj “Your ideas about yourself change from moment to moment. Your self image is the most changeful thing you have . A bereavement, the loss of a job, an insult and your image of yourself , which you call your person, changes deeply.
To know what you are you must first investigate what you are not. Separate consistently the ‘ I am’ from ‘this’ or ‘that’ and try to feel what it means to just be without being ‘this’ or ‘that’.”
How can you say without a body are not aware? Have you experienced this body-lessness so that you can make claims about it. Its just an assumption without basis.
All you can say is that you don't know if without your body you would be aware.
I would say that when in deep sleep(no self consciousness/body consciousness) I have been aware that I am aware. That same awareness which tells you in a lucid dream what state you are in and that you are one with the dream .
A foundation is the basis for which something stands , you said your body was your foundation thats why I asked what you are building i.e what is it stands on your body. Could the ego be what is built on the I am the body thought.
Isn't it your mind that tells you you are the body. The body cannot tell you who you are. Everything you think goes through your mind. Everything you sense is not without your mind telling you what you sense.
Seer ,seeing and seen are not done by the body(eye). The eye is just and instrument.
When you see someone asleep you can only infer that their eyes are closed and that they are not moving. Their experienced state is unknown to you . Even inferring their person(personality) while asleep(not self conscious) is the same is incorrect.
The answer to Who am I cannot be " the person who asks questions" if you are not asking questions.
How do you know what happens when you are in deep sleep?