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reply to post by Serdgiam
It hurts too much to think about, if that tells you anything. And you know how much I like to think...
Learning about the subject doesn't guarantee that I will understand your vocabulary. Text books don't explain it as you do, nor do they necessarily reflect your understanding and inflection.
...time as a function of space. Without space, there is no relativity, and without space, there is no movement and therefore no "time" to be relevant.
Here are my own thoughts, not as competing hypotheses, but simply as an alternative view.
Our perception of time is the quale of duration, and duration is our sensory measurement of events. Events can be anything, from the instantaneous creation and destruction of a particle, to the slow motion of an arc's degree by a galaxy, they are motions of physical events. Even our thoughts are events with their own duration. They have a beginning and an end. Duration is what occurs between beginning and end, and as we both consciously and unconsciously perceive durations of multiple overlapping events within a narrow sensory field, we experience them within a quale paradigm which we call time. Time itself has no real existential reality of its own. Time is to duration as wetness is to water, or redness to the colour red.
Space is defined by its content, that which exists within it. Space without content is not space, but void, non-sensory, unfathomable, utterly imperceivable, non-vectorised, and therefore non-dimensional. Only when content is in space are we able to determine that there is space. In fact, there is nothing more immaterial then space, it absolutely has no constituent parts to it, it is not made of anything, and does not in anyway interact with whatever content is in it, and with good reason. Space is not made of matter, but matter exists in space. Space does not determine what matter is, and matter does not determine what space is, but matter's presence brings space into experience.
Space-time is a useful mathematical abstract construction, in that to traverse the lacuna between one event and that of another disparate event, say 'A' to 'B', one has to know the position and motion of 'A' relative to the position and motion of 'B', using our observation location as the frame of reference. Between 'A' and 'B' there is an amount of space that gives us distance, and we know that to travel any distance between two separate disparate points in space takes an amount of duration, dependent upon speed of motion. Therefore, we can combine space and time to give accurate vectoring.
How do these thoughts integrate with your own?
In other words, if a "Merkaba," or even a Tetragrammaton, is a very important shape, then how does it actually integrate with things? How is it formed, and how would it affect the universe or our perspective? What are mechanisms that could allow "life after death," and knowing what we know, how might the experience actually relate to what we experience now, if at all?
So, is what you are saying (is) that time has no relevance outside of the human experience?
...are you saying that 'time' is a function/derivative of duration rather than the other way around?
...even if space was entirely devoid of all matter, there would still be experiential variables at play.
...perhaps, there even are universes which have no matter whatsoever, but still have "experience."
...derivatives of the original coordinate system set into play by the medium of space-time itself
Theoretically, the "Merkaba" is an electrostatic pocket generated through a shift in organic electromagnetic communication. It affects the universe in that it sort of allows you to slip backstage, so to speak.
reply to post by elysiumfire
If i knew that, i could revolutionize the electronics industry.
The shape of the wave is not determined by the force that causes the wave, but by the medium which constrains the expression (spread of energy) of and away from the point of where the 'impact' occurs.
The more you observe your perception of time, the slower it is perceived to pass. When you do not observe your perception of time, if your attention is concerned with some other activity, time seems to pass more rapidly. Time is not a fundamental aspect of nature, it is a fundamental aspect of perception whilst observing events.
Seconds, minutes, hours, days, months, years, etc, are simply abstract mathematical constructs we impose upon nature's motions for purposes of measurement, and are just as illusory as time itself.
This where we differ. If space was entirely devoid of all matter, no experiential variable would be present. By all means, pick one experiential variable that would be at play, any one of your choosing?
and more importantly, whether force-carrier particles require a medium through which to propagate?
Anyway, I digress.
I know Einstein talks about 'curved' space and time, or curved space-time due to the gravitational mass of objects, but neither space, nor time, nor space-time actually curve, because curvature cannot occur to expressions that are simply abstractions of thought. They are not real conditional properties in nature.
reply to post by Serdgiam
I think the right technology could pull a steady stream of power from the air itself.
...do you feel that matter itself can perceive these things...
How does this work in your perspective?
Do you feel if nothing is there to perceive events, then nothing moves?
I remain uncertain on how that could equate to what those patterns represent being just as illusory as the human perception of them.
...how do you define "experience"?
I think your use of a bullet in your analogy is too large an object to illustrate a quantum process. The wave form is a packet of informational energy that is somehow transposed into actual daily experience of the world. It is this mystery that we have to solve, what Chalmers calls the 'hard problem' of consciousness, the puzzle of how sensory stimulation is turned into experience of the real world? I can give a plausible hypothesis for how the conscious state is generated, but the 'hard problem' is something my energy resonance hypothesis cannot hope to get anywhere near. The energy resonance is a data packet carrying information about the interaction, but how this data is transposed into real world experience is beyond me.
The patterns are illusory because of their abstraction, they are simply impositions of human imagination upon what is real, and we impose them for purposes of measurement to gain coordinates of understanding about reality. With these devices we are able to bring the obfuscated aspects of reality into the narrow field of our perceptions. In doing this, we have discovered that we cannot take our perceptions as conveyors of true reality.
Experience is the end product of stimulation. It contains all the qualia of which experience of the real world is comprised. Sight, hearing, taste, smell, and touch (all external stimuli) are all comprised of packets of qualia data (vibrational frequencies and energy values), that along with proprioceptive data, present a real world experience of reality.
I actually tried to approach this very question in a thread I made, but did not really get the responses I was hoping for. It was discussing the first moment that matter was suddenly able to act instead of simply react to the forces at play.