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reply to post by LewsTherinThelamon
Besides the change in attitude towards dreams, have you been able to interpret any meaning out of yours? I'm sure any meaning extracted would only affect the individual and be subjective, but thought I'd ask.
What if some of our dreams - surely not all of them - aren't really "dreams"? What if they are memories or even current happenings of alternate versions of ourselves in alternate dimensions? Like, what if when we dream, our minds are actually fusing with alternate versions of ourselves and we're experiencing something that happened to some other "us."
Anyone else think this or have this experience?
Questioner: You’ve said that you create your own reality, and what if the reality you want to create involves the decisions of other people that you don’t even know?
Joshiah: At some level within your subconsciousness there is not one individual that you would deal with in your so-called day-to-day activities that you do not know. Now that becomes difficult to comprehend in your conscious state, and we’ve suggested many times that if you attempted to hold in your conscious state all of the particular interactions that you put in place and all of the agreements and the contracts that you put in place in your so-called altered state of consciousness, in your dream state, that it would be impossible for you to do it. You would be what you would refer to as insane.
Now. However, in your conscious state what you experience in your day-to-day activities is an illusion. And there’s absolutely no interaction with another individual that you have not at some level of your subconsciousness put in place the agreements to do so. And you believe in time and space. You believe that if it occurs today, “Well, perhaps I put that agreement in place in my dream state.” Well, perhaps you did. But perhaps the dream state is occurring simultaneously to the particular interaction. Because that’s how it truly is. Time and space are illusions. And that becomes a difficult concept to give any type of an explanation for because we attempt to give you an explanation based upon your understanding of your creation process and based upon your understanding of this reality in your conscious state, which indeed dictates that there must be time and there must be space, because that’s what makes it real. And if it’s real, then how can you change it? And that’s a choice that you make in your subconsciousness to perpetuate in your conscious state to validate this reality.
And so, that interaction with the so-called stranger is an interaction with an individual that you’ve put in place the agreement to participate in that creation for the purposes of experiencing the particular emotions and feelings that arise out of that interaction. It’s never a chance. It may seem to be a chance but it’s never a chance.
Now. There are individuals existing who understand in their conscious state the capacity to interact and to deal with others at a so-called subconscious level, and they do that on a regular basis and they recognize that interaction. If you can recognize that interaction in your conscious state then it should validate that it would be much, much easier to recognize much more complex interactions in your so-called subconscious state or in your altered state of consciousness.
And so, you put in place the contracts and the agreements and, once again, we use your belief in time and space in order to give you some type of explanation that you can get a grasp of, and so we say you put in place those contracts and those agreements in your altered states of consciousness, in your dream states, or for many in your meditative state, indeed even in your between incarnational states, you put in place the agreements and the contracts to have the experience in your conscious state. And then you conveniently blank any possible connection between your subconsciousness and your conscious state so that the conscious state seems real.
But it’s never an accident. You create it all. Absolutely. Even those situations that you feel are less than desirable, they are reflections of the beliefs and belief systems. And we suggest belief systems because, you see, to simplify it is to say that you create your reality based upon a belief. And you do, absolutely. But it’s like saying that every object that you experience in your so-called conscious state, in your reality, is comprised of an atom and the atoms are all the same. There’s very subtle differences in terms of the protons and neutrons and electrons. But basically they are all the same. And yet, it’s difficult to grasp that your air that you breathe has components that are made up of atoms that are very similar to the couch that you sit on that seems to be so solid. And yet they are all made up of atoms.
And so it is that the reality that you experience is all made up of beliefs, and the beliefs are in belief systems where there are a multitude of beliefs that interact with others that reflect in the reality that you experience. And they are beliefs that you choose—that you choose—at some level of your consciousness and your subconsciousness and what you might refer to as your higher self, to put in place in order to experience that particular activity or element or event in your conscious state for the purpose of, once again, of experiencing the very broad range of emotions and feelings that arise from that interaction.
And it’s never an accident. Your so-called higher self, that spark of consciousness that you are, creates it all, and it creates it all joyously. And many times interacting with others to create as well. You see, when we suggest that you create every atom that you experience in your conscious state, in this entire universe, we suggest that you create it, and you create it, and you create it, and you create it—and so everyone creates it and yet each creates it.
That becomes, again, a very difficult concept to grasp, for you see, you believe in your conscious state, once again, in that time and space belief system that there must be space, and it is an illusion, absolutely. And each individual, each entity existing within your vibrational level exists within each and every atom of your entire vibrational level, of your entire universe. And you all participate in that creation. You all agree. You all put in place what we refer to, once again, as the human conscious type belief systems and the societal belief systems and the individual belief systems, and you create it all. And you agree to participate in that creation in your altered states of consciousness. Including the interactions with the individuals that you believe are strangers in your conscious state. There are no strangers.
Individuals who are what some might refer to as metaphysical or telepathic or some might even refer to as advanced, although we do not like to use that term, “advanced,” for you see, the individual who has absolutely no concept of the creation process may be the most advanced in terms of creating. And so “advanced” is very limiting type of phrase to use, but nonetheless, there are those who believe that if you have that capacity to telepathically interact with others that you are somehow more advanced. And yet you all hold that capacity. And when you meet someone that’s an absolute stranger, they’re not a stranger. And those individuals who have that capacity to telepathically interact many times can tell you many things about that stranger without the stranger ever opening their mouth, could tell you many things about the emotions that they’re experiencing, many things about the beliefs that they hold.
And each of you has that capacity, absolutely. You just don’t recognize it. You hide from it. And many times those that hide from it the best are the most advanced. It’s not necessarily the other way around. To say that someone is advanced in terms of their capacity to have telepathic interactions does not in any way suggest that they are more advanced in terms of understanding their capacity to create their reality. Absolutely not. You create your reality. You do it through the beliefs that you hold, choices and decisions that you make. And indeed you put in place in your altered states of consciousness, and we refer to, once again, this concept of time and space, the altered states of consciousness when you are in your altered state, which you refer to as a dream state, which may be in your last evening, or it may have been a week ago, or it may have been a year ago, or it may have been when you were a very small child, or it may have even been when you were in your between incarnation state of consciousness, you put in place the agreement that at such and such a day, in this illusion, “We’ll have this [real] experience. And then we’ll experience the range of emotions and feelings and then we’ll forget all about it in our conscious state. In fact, we will not only just forget about it, we will even deny that we had anything to do with it. We’ll deny it to the point where we absolutely refuse to believe that we participated in it. And then we can blame somebody else, and then it just gets so much stronger and better, and the feelings get so much more and we can really get into it then.”
And that’s what you do. Each and every individual existing within your vibrational level does that by choice. It’s not an accident, absolutely not. And when you really (inaudible) of consciousness, when you are in a meditative state or indeed in your dream state, when you practice taking what we refer to as part of your consciousness into that state, then you can indeed manipulate, if you wish, many of the activities that you participate in [in] your altered state of consciousness and you can bring back into your conscious state glimpses of what it’s like to create your reality. Glimpses of what it’s like to exist where you have an understanding that time and space are illusions.
Each of you has the capacity to do that, you have but to believe. You have but to desire, to imagine, and to expect it. You have but to believe. You have but to choose and it can be yours.