reply to post by Brucee
There is a difference between oneness and enlightenment. Oneness you still can describe with words, enlightenment is beyond ANY description.
I'm talking about the Nondual state. Reality with no boundaries, including no "you".
And a person who has experienced real enlightenment without any touch/rest of the ego never speaks this out.
Tons and tons of individuals who have experienced Enlightenment, have spoken about. Buddha in particular, and all the Buddhas that came after him have
achieved and spoken about, and there are many ways "there." Its a very simple thing and not all complicated and impossible like people make it out
reply to post by Aphorism
Very interesting contradiction. It would seem as if attempting to be an authority on a subject in which no one is an authority is quite the crutch for
Ego establishment itself. If enlightenment is to stick one's fingers in his ears when another chooses to express his or her opinions, I would say
that most people are already quite enlightened.
If I wanted to discuss with you, what Hawaii is like, and you have never been there, then its a waste of time to discuss something you have no direct
experience with. I can wait, til you yourself go to Hawaii, and come back. Then we can talk. What is so hard to understand about this?????
reply to post by Shurima
Does this come with a free Mala? It seems to me as if "Enlightenment" has become a product of some sort...
People have been working on Enlightenment for thousands of years. Nothing new. Not a trend or a product.
Save the infomercial for never. You don't set a time frame for attainment simply because it's different for everyone. Enlightenment is something you
can't explain or teach to people because it's a unique experience.
Enlightenment is very simple. There are Dzogchen and Bon teachings, where if you have a decent amount of wisdom and intellect, you can shift directly
into Enlightenment in a hour or two. There are 100's of blueprints for Enlightenment and it has been taught for thousands of years. What do you think
Monasteries are for?
reply to post by HooHaa
These short cut methods don't work we'll... You can get some useful techniques and tools but to claim enlightenment in "x" amount of time.. It
doesn't work like that..
How do you know? Prove it?
Monks dedicate their entire lives and some still don't reach it.. Unless your and my understanding and definition of enlightenment are worlds apart..
Some Monks get there in a few weeks or couple months depending on techniques and blueprints used, then spend the rest of their lives stabilizing and
deepening the stateless state. Same goes for regular lay folks who work on this at home. Its not very complicated.
FYI, these are discussion boards.. You will find those who disagree or openly challenge your views, understanding and beliefs ...
There are tons of threads on ATS. The threads that are about subjects I know nothing about, I never reply to. What right do I have to discuss what its
like in Hawaii, if I've never been there and refuse to go?
I find it almost comical that you claim to have found the keys to enlightenment and make a statement like that... Thanks for saving me time.. It
obviously doesn't work..
Thanks for judging a book by the cover, shooting the messenger, and throwing the baby out with the bath water. Direct and blunt. No need to sugar
coat. If your ego felt offended, means your not aware of your own ego, and it has kept you from an AWESOME set of instructions.
reply to post by OmegaSynthesis
Enlightenment is very subjective. What one realizes could differ on a vast scale to someone, somewhere else. What is the enlightenment to be attained
here other than self awareness and or an attitude towards life and mind?
Enlightenment is Universal. Awareness, Oneness, Nondual, Absolute Beingness. All the different cultures call all these same things by different names,
but the experience is ALWAYS Universal. A center of Awareness, that merges in the Heart into a Nondual state, and eventually into an Absolute
Beingness. Along with that are inner channels, chakras, grace, soul, bliss.
Tee only subjectivity is the road to the destination. But the destination itself is always the same