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Originally posted by Nephilimsreturn
People who claim alien contact are, of course, opening themselves to public scrutiny and ridicule.
Not just modern times, but throughout history, whenever someone goes against the believed status quo, they have been subject to such mockery, and in the past, even death and imprisonment.
Originally posted by g2v12
Originally posted by RedCairo
I wrote a case study in 1995 for a therapist friend, about a couple very weird years of my life (which included interaction with identities some refer to as aliens), and among other things on this topic...
Would like to hear more about your experiences myself. What did you mean by "identities"?
About the only thing I can conclude after all this time is that we don't know what's going on, we have never known, and the only chance we have of figuring things out is to toss all our conclusions out the door and begin over again, taking absolutely everything as equal data for consideration. We cannot make intelligent decisions about what "deserves" to be considered data, let alone what deserves to be considered evidence. By thinking we can, we pre-choose the answer by pre-choosing the data. That isn't methodical research, it's justification of existing belief systems, and denial of anything to the contrary.
(quoting me) >>What do you think? Would it be better for people to peruse the stories of others, whether personal or researchers, even if it might influence them, just to better understand what's already happened and/or will happen? Or should people like me try to live in a cave away from the subject lest we be 'influenced' into an event that loses its... well, objectivity? (As if there were much of that in any experience to begin with...)
A very well orchestrated, if not despicable practice that served its purpose of deflecting eyes and attention away from the secret projects (stealth bomber and fighter as two examples) it was executed to protect.
I guess my point is that as a society we are taught to go along to get along.This includes not thinking outside the "norm" and certainly not proclaiming anything outside the "norm". So when people come forward with a tale of alien contact, abduction, etc... it's going to get "the treatment" from their peers in general, throw in the resources of the U.S. (and many others) government's various intelligence services being applied to the Main Stream Media and you have a full court press of manipulation and attitude conditioning.
And so forth, and so forth...what I want to point out is that those so called "best cases" after some investigation and research all collapse and become "not so great anymore"...and of course the fact that we don't have a yota of proof which could stand a scientific investigation. Zero. Zilch.
Originally posted by LogicalRazor
reply to post by compressedFusion
If the claims cannot stand up to scrutiny and no credible evidence can be produced,
expect rational and logical thinking human beings
to not only question it but, to be suspicious and ridicule those making outrageous claims.
Originally posted by CirqueDeTruth
I still think it's the same phenomenon being approached from different ways.
For all the theories about this stuff, the bottom line is that it is affecting people. In many cases, it is scaring people. In some cases, it is hurting people. From the personal issues of fearing for one's sanity, to the social issues of "coming out of the closet" about the experiences, to the religious beliefs and fears that come into glaring relief, to the psychological issues that are brought out in full force by this, to the physiological symptoms and mind-boggling 'paranormal' side-effects, any of these can be devastating, but particularly when you combine all of those effects simultaneously!
This is not improved by wanna-be gurus who will ‘help you remember’ an invariably lousy experience, any more than it is by scientists and psychologists, our own experts and our best hope, insisting they won't study the subject because "they know there's nothing to study."
If we can't be professional enough objectively, let's at least be compassionate enough personally to look into what can be done to help people work through the effects of these experiences, whatever their true cause. I'd like to spend less time searching for gods and aliens and more time searching for ourselves. It seems to me that in the quest for understanding our own people, the source of our experiences may eventually become clear.