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Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity
Originally posted by Evil_Santa
Buddhists have been persecuted for thousands of years already by Islam. There's regions of Pakistan where the local folklore about the statues of Buddha is that the statue is a demon locked in stone by allah.edit on 27-8-2013 by Evil_Santa because: (no reason given)
You know what? I am talking about AMERICANS being harassed for free speech in AMERICA. I don't like and am horrified at the treatment of Tibetans and Buddhists in other countries, but I cannot do anything but pray for them. I am an American. I am watching our rights being taken away at every turn. When the laws are applied like this to the causes you care about and they use the precedence of attacking Christians then what will you do?
Apparently, you will say it happens to Buddhists in China! That is just ridiculous!
Thallus (c. 50-75AD)
Thallus was one of the first Gentile historians to mention Christ. His writings have disappeared but we know of them from the writing of others, such as Julius Africanus (about AD 221) who quotes from Thallas. One of his quotes includes reference to the darkness that occurred at the crucifixion and suggests that a total eclipse was the cause. Julius points out in his writing the impossibility of this since the festival of Passover, when Jesus was crucified, occurs at full moon (eclipses only occur at a new moon).
Phlegon (First century)
Phlego was a first century historian whose 'Chronicles' have now been lost, but he is quoted by other early writers. He mentions the darkness at the crucifixion of Jesus saying that "an eclipse of the sun occurred during the full moon".
Josephus (Antiquities of the Jews, c.93)
Pliny the Younger (c. 61-113)
Tacitus (Annals, c. 115-120)
Suetonius (c. 125)
Justin Martyr (c. 150)
Tertullian (c. 155-220)
Lucian (Second century)
Mara bar ("son of ") Serapion, sometimes spelled Mara bar Sarapion was a Stoic philosopher from the Roman province of Syria. He is noted for a letter he wrote in Syriac to his son, who was also named Serapion. The letter was composed sometime after 73 AD but before the 3rd century, and most scholars date it to shortly after AD 73 during the first century. The letter may be an early non-Christian reference to the crucifixion of Jesus.
The letter includes no Christian themes and many scholars consider Mara a pagan, although a small number suggest he may have been a monotheist. Some scholars see the reference to the execution of the "wise king" of the Jews as an early non-Christian reference to Jesus. Criteria that support the non-Christian origin of the letter include the observation that "king of the Jews" was not a Christian title, and that the letter's premise that Jesus lives on based on the wisdom of his teachings is in contrast to the Christian concept that Jesus continues to live through his resurrection.
Scholars such as Robert Van Voorst see little doubt that the reference to the execution of the "king of the Jews" is about the death of Jesus. Others such as Craig A. Evans see less value in the letter, given its uncertain date, and the possible ambiguity in the reference.
Tacitus recorded at least one reference to Christ and two to early Christianity, one in each of his major works. The most important one is that found in the Annals, written about 115 A.D. The following was recounted concerning the great fire in Rome during the reign of Nero:
We have early attestation, meaning that there was no time for myths or fables
Do I really need to pull up quotes from historians that say Jesus was a manufactured persona from other religions?
"The falsification of history has done more to impede human development than any one thing known to mankind" - Rousseau
“the biggest cover-up in the history of mankind is the history of mankind itself”
“There are two histories: official history, lying, and then secret history, where you find the real causes of events.” ~ Honoré de Balzac
This is a TON of information about the man we know as Jesus and all of it comes from witnesses who were HOSTILE to the truth claims of Christianity!
Is There Any Evidence for Jesus Outside the Bible?
"Here is a fact: There is far more evidence for the existence of Jesus than for virtually anyone in ancient history. Anyone who peddles that “Christ-myth” theory, does NOT do so on the ground of historical evidence. The fact of Jesus Christ in history is as axiomatic for an unbiased historian as is the fact of Julius Caesar. Get this straight. It is not historians who promote the “Christ-myth” notion. ...his alleged words and actions were documented by numerous people." LINK