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Originally posted by Krazysh0t
reply to post by WhoKnows100
All three religions say that their god is almighty and that he is the only god. They all are derived from Abraham. Therefore they are all the same god. The message in the religions is what is different. The religions care more about HOW the god is worshiped rather than the actual god. If every Christian, Muslim, and Jew would just sit down and realize that they all worshiped the same god and that he loves everyone equally, there would be FAR less violence and hate in the world (of course not all would be gone). Yet here you are (as well as other religious people) in this very thread getting all offended that someone has the AUDACITY to point out that all your religions come from a similar source and essentially worship the same exact thing. This is why I hate organized religions. The mentality that MY religion is correct and all others be damned even if the others worship the same thing. Heck even in your particular religions you can't even agree with what is correct. That is why there are so many denominations of Christianity, several Muslim denominations, and several Jewish ones.
By the way, in order for what Jesus' words to be true, one has to believe the bible, a book written by easily corruptible men. So until it can be proven that the bible is completely factually correct (and this is becoming more and more unlikely) your religion is as true as Judaism or Islam.edit on 22-8-2013 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Krazysh0t
reply to post by dragonridr
A bicycle and a car are both vehicles. This is the analogy that I am getting at. The way they are operated and perform are how they differ. Would you as a car driver go to kill and wage war against the bicycle drivers?
Originally posted by superluminal11
Its all based in astrotheology and goes further back than Egypt.
Then there is the human editing part of history for selfish reasons thrown in.
Originally posted by Krazysh0t
reply to post by dragonridr
These are some of the very reasons I went from being Christian Non-Denominational to dropping religion altogether. Religions focus too much on the little things and view the differences between their religions as something reprehensible when they should really be celebrating the fact that they all worship the same loving god and have just developed vastly different ways of doing it. Then the coup-de-grace was when I discovered that all three essentially worshiped the same thing and had just as much chance of being right as a Christian then as a Muslim or Jew.
When it comes down to it all three religions commune with god through prayer (granted the customs and traditions on how they go about praying are different) yet all three have come up with crazy traditions and rites that do more to control them then to actually you know celebrate god. Why does one need a church or mosque at all when one can just talk to god through prayer? If they want to learn about their faith they can read their respective religious text, why do they need some guy to tell them how to interpret it and what to learn about?
Originally posted by Krazysh0t
You have all the atheists/agnostics agreeing with the OP (because frankly he's correct)
and all the religious people in the thread going "Nuh uh! My religion is clearly nothing like the others and this is why it's superior! Read my particular religious text and you will see."
First off what makes your particular religious text more true than any of the others?
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
YHVH, God, and Allah are all the same. The prophets of Judaism (like Moses) are acknowledged in Christianity, and the prophets of Christianity (like Jesus) are acknowledged in Islam.
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by dragonridr
I have been studying them.
My first exposure was through a college course called "Jew Christian Muslim".
My self study has continued from there.
I dont agree with your opinion.
Despite what the media would have you believe, the similarities are staggering.
From the almost identical (specifically with regards to The Law) passages in the Koran and Torah to the belief in the Virgin Birth and Second Coming.
edit on 22-8-2013 by gladtobehere because: (no reason given)
And if you had bothered to read more than my first post in the thread you would see that I have already outlined and elaborated on my point you are quoting here.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
No. He's not correct. If you had bothered to read the information posted you would have seen that Islam, Judaism and Christianity are fundamentally different. They worship different Gods. That's as fundamentally different as it gets.
Would you like me to link the first page of the thread because just about every response follows that reasoning? Sure my version was more shortened and slightly sarcastic, but the message is the same.
Wanna' show us exactly where anyone said anything like that? Good luck with that.
I have no idea if the Old Testament text is true. I have no idea if the gospels are 100% true. However, I am 100% sure that the Qu'ran is false. It took the Old Testament and the Christian Gospels and POORY Plagiarized them ... adding some paganism and zoroastrianism as well.
Most scholars believe[30] that key concepts of Zoroastrian eschatology and demonology influenced the Abrahamic religions
Originally posted by Krazysh0t
reply to post by borntowatch
I can't understand what now? Seems you are just assuming many things about me based on my post. I was raised Roman Catholic. I spent the better part of my childhood going to church every Sunday and then afterwards, going to Sunday school. I switched to Christian Non-Denominational after I graduated from high school and had joined the military because I became disillusioned with the Catholic faith and didn't want to join another denomination yet still believed. Then eventually as I got older I decided it was just better to be agnostic (read: NOT atheist agnostic). In fact I think that the Buddhist faith has more of a chance of being correct (at least the reincarnation part) then any of the three control mechanisms.. er.. I mean religions discussed in the OP.
I am very aware of what Jesus means to Christians, it doesn't change the fact that all three religions still worship the same god and just go about it differently.
3300 - 1300 BCE : extent and major sites of the indus valley civilization.. this was a bronze age civilization (3300–1300 BCE; mature period 2600–1900 BCE) in the northwestern region of the Indian subcontinent, flourishing around the indus river basin, the civilization extended east into the ghaggar-hakra river valley and the upper reaches ganges-yamuna doab; it extended west to the makran coast of balochistan, north to northeastern afghanistan and south to daimabad in maharashtra..
the civilization was spread over some 1,260,000 km², making it the largest known ancient civilization.. the Indus valley is one of the world's earliest urban civilizations, along with its contemporaries, mesopotamia and ancient egypt.. at its peak, the indus civilization may have had a population of well over five million.. inhabitants of the ancient indus river valley developed new techniques in handicraft (carnelian products, seal carving) and metallurgy (copper, bronze, lead, and tin).. the civilization is noted for its cities built of brick, roadside drainage system, and multistoried houses as well as for containing artifacts of early hinduism..
3228 – 3102 BCE : traditionally accepted time of krishna's life on earth (one of the revered gods, (christ figure) in hinduism)
the vedas (sanskrit वेदाः véda, "knowledge") are a large body of texts originating in ancient india.. composed in vedic sanskrit, the texts constitute the oldest layer of sanskrit literature and the oldest scriptures of hinduism.. the vedas are said to be apauruṣeya ("not of human agency"), they are supposed to have been directly revealed, and thus are called śruti ("what is heard"), distinguishing them from other religious texts, which are called smṛti ("what is remembered")..
the vedas are among the oldest sacred texts.. the samhitas date to roughly 1500–1000 BCE, and the "circum-vedic" texts, as well as the redaction of the samhitas, date to c. 1000-500 BCE, resulting in a vedic period, spanning the mid 2nd to mid 1st millennium bce, or the late bronze age and the iron age..