Originally posted by SubTruth
Political correctness is tool for the progressive filth to keep everyone in line. Both sides white and black have been played. Race should not even
be an issue anymore.
Hi. I'm Pinke. Progressive filth, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. *Shakes everyone's hands*
I'm glad you're fired up about the issue, but the question is what are you going to do about it? What have you done about it? Its all well and good
to say that race shouldn't be an issue any more but clearly it is or we wouldn't be having this discussion. If it is that these minority
organizations are being hijacked and dragged off in silly directions then we should do something to stop it productively.
Originally posted by kozmo
This country was founded on a VERY simple principle; That ALL men are created EQUAL. There is no room in a society that is built on equality for
groups that demonstrate racial preference. There is also no need for laws that allow some men to be more equal than others.
Well sort of ... equal in the eyes of the law, yes but some perspective is required on why these groups exist ...
As late as the 70s serial killers working in gay and black neighbourhoods weren't recognized due to well ... idiocy. The perception was that gay
people had violent sex and therefore some of these deaths were listed as 'accidents' and perhaps a similar perception was of black people. There are
numerous quotes from serial killers around this time that knew
that the police didn't care so much if a black or gay person went missing.
The point I'm making is that this happened without many people's life times. It's hard to forget that and let it go.
The further issue is that these groups do
have unique political preferences. I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt though and assume that
groups against black poverty or for gay marriage would be excluded from your ideals? I'm not sure?
Originally posted by Azdraik
reply to post by IvanAstikov
Look up the Moors and see what they did to Spain and France. Next, a large portion of the slave trade was initiated by guess who.... other black
tribes in Africa selling to the Danish. So if you have a bone to pick pick it with the ones who sold their neighbors for trinkets.
I think this is somewhat missing the point, although I agree that many groups still use the slavery issue as an emotive card.
Black people in America are more likely to poor and, as above, they have been marginalized and misrepresented. The fact that for a few decades a white
child was more valued than a black child is a huge wound in the black community. It's hard to forget, and if persons are serious about healing this
would they would reach out to these communities rather than just ask them to be ceremoniously disbanded.
Originally posted by salainen
How can they say that all Aboriginals are worse off than everyone else?
This is a bit of a side issue, but an interesting one ...
I understand what you're saying that poor persons should be the target of assistance and not Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islanders. Years ago I would
have agreed with you. Please note I've also been on the recieving end of racism from Aboriginal people and I've written about this on ATS so I'm
not writing this from a position of ignorance ...
The simple and unfortunate fact of the matter is that if the poorest communities in Australia were targetted by assistance then we would still be
trying to aid Aboriginal people. The Australian government has pretty much all but given up on them, and whatever is happening now is mere lip
service. I only know a handful of Aboriginals who have made it to university, and many of them were brought up in conditions that bred a hatred
towards white people and white society.
I suppose the hope is that with Aboriginal people have a community identity and more educated Aboriginal persons appearing, that it may drive some
change throughout their community. Unfortunately, it's an incredibly slow process and possible even a futile one. It's sad.
I'm not really extremely in favor of minority groups, they can be dumb ... but nor am I completely beyond understanding them. You can't just make
all of this go away over night and I'm open to suggestions. Perhaps white people creating their own groups will be part of the healing process in the
community but what would be much more powerful would be a white community group that actively visits
these other groups infriendly terms so
that all voices can be heard and bonds can be forged.
I don't know this person that started the white group ... but honestly, eighteen years old ... I'm going to assume the person isn't actually as
well read and as world weary as they think. The person isn't going to be representing Pinke.