reply to post by Rochester
"They have no right...." according to who - you? Have you even been to Russia or any of the other former Soviet republics? Have you personally
spoken to the people in the region?
Yes, when I make reference to having Russian friends, I don't mean people I've read the comments of on the internet
My point is that if you are not there and only gleaning your information from a website that covers the story from the liberal angle, you might
not have the complete picture.
And I would agree with you. Luckily I don't do that.
I can tell you that religion is a huge part of their culture now, something they did not have before. If they choose to ignore this behavior,
it is because the majority agree that this is something they do not want in their society. The Christian Orthodox Religion (prevalent in the former
USSR republics) is an enormous part of their society now.
I didn't now being religious absolved you from acting like an animal. I'm very aware of the social changes occuring within Russia.
And again, who are we to tell them how they should behave and how they should treat people?
I understand you are in Canada and may feel you have the right to do so, I, however, being an American, am not going to be one to throw stones - no
matter how much I personally believe they deserve it.
Did you just insinuate that Canadians feel more entitled, to tell people, in other countries, what to do and how to act, when compared to Americans?
Here's the problem with the not throwing stones theory. The fact of the matter is, that sometimes people act in ways that are so reprehensible, their
reasons don't matter and the idea that my opinion as a human being matters less than some other guy, because he was born somewhere different, isn't a
I personally find the "source" of your information to have a liberal slant and not too forgiving to Christian beliefs. Is it so hard for a
social liberal to accept Christian beliefs?
I'm starting to think you're under the impression that I'm anti-religious? I'm not.
I don't hate religion, I'm simply appaled by those who do evil things in it's name, like kidnap and beat up teenagers because of their sexual
orientation. Or for any reason for that matter.
The 'source' doesn't matter if the information presented is factual. People often mix up opinion with fact.
I accept all your Christinan beliefs. At least the ones good Christians I know cherry pick because the rest would make them look like the manson
family otherwise. Religion isn't actually a bad or dangerous thing, unless people who are bad and dangerous to begin with, cling on it and use it as
their 'carte-blanche' to commit acts of violence on people.
This is a small group doing what they feel is right according to the culture they are living in.
So that makes it OK?
Why don't you just go over there and tell them how they should behave? If you are so concerned, go over there and "stop the madness".
Well that's a loaded question.
Publicizing this on ATS is not going to draw worldwide attention - you're just having a rant and want others to agree with you.
Right, so we don't do little things anymore. We only do things if we know 100% it will create the exact change we seek to promote right? No point in
even talking about it..
the fact still remains - it is not our place to tell them how to run their country.
Asking them to not assault people for their sexual orientation has nothing to do with " how they run their country ".
I'm sorry, but there's a certain standard that exists for how people are supposed to treat eachother. I'm certainly not of the mindset that voicing
and demanding proper treatment of people in my community, country and anywhere else that humans live, is a bad thing.
Or a waste of time.
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