reply to post by Anevyn
I think the cold war is over. We are in a new era, but having said that, the relationship between Russia and the United States will always be
I agree that Russia is, quite rightly, milking the Snowden situation for all its considerable
Snowden is like a modern "Eichmann" type, but with a difference. He is not going along with the Nazi program. There have been others, lesser known,
who have done the same but have paid for it stateside. Snowden bugged out instead.
Of course, this whole situation is a can of worms. The US government can bring Snowden back and put him in jail on valid national security grounds in
which a court case, quite legitimately, would never consider the wider implications of national policy that he is trying to expose to the American
As Sibel Edmunds has said, there is no real effective framework in the United States to handle the activities of whistleblowers. She formed a group to
assist them, in fact. One wonders why Snowden did not make use of their good offices.
In that context, there are a lot of reservations about Snowden.
What I wanted to get at in this post though, is that if Snowden stays in Russia, then he becomes Putin's problem.
Russia is no bastion of free speech. Russia can match America any time, dead journalist for dead journalist. They will never showcase Snowden. They
cannot. He's like a disease to a big surveillance state. The issues that he presents have to be resolved democratically at a more fundamental level
than is possible to do for the present leadership both in the US and Russia.
I can't really see Snowden staying in Russia for any length of time. I think the Russians will eventually get him out of the country.
On a conspiracy level, if the FSB has interrogated him in any comprehensive way regarding important security deployments in the US, he may be in a
position to elucidate Russian concerns to his former employers if he is ever back in the US. It raises the question of whether Snowden is a Lee Harvey
Oswald style fake defector.
Knowledge of Russia's security concerns vis a vis
American electronic surveillance capabilities puts Snowden in a very dangerous position,
The Snowden drama is fascinating. Handling him is like handling flypaper for any government. One becomes wedded to the issues raised by him. I don't
think Putin is interested in being restricted in that way.
I think Russia is trying to develop a way to get along in the world that is more democratic but that doesn't involve all of the chicanery of a
"democracy" like the United States, a brutal oligarchical wolf in democratic sheep's clothing.
Democracy is a new toy for them. They are being cautious with it. They have already had to deal with one set of oligarchs, the home grown ones. They
don`t want to open the door wide to the machinations of the American oligarchs. I`m sure some among them may be wondering if that is what they have
already done with Snowden.
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