reply to post by artemisminion
The story of Sodom and Gohmora has less to do with homosexuality than most people realize. It has more to do with a city full of jerks.
If homosexuality is a form a population control, it's probably one reason why God doesn't like it. God calls us to be fruitful and multiply. There
was no need for any population control back when the OT was written. In fact the opposite. God was trying to make an army/kingdom out of the Israelite
people. He wanted more of them, not less of them.
But your statement goes to the general theory of homosexual being natural and the different way people try to argue it. Like being gay is natural,
it's a form of population control!. Being gay is natural, certain animals portray homosexual traits! Yada yada, and all the different ways people
But the problem is our modern day definition of natural. In this day and age natural means anything that takes place in the natural world. Well, since
we only live in the natural world and not the supernatural word, that makes EVERYTHING natural. Nothing is unnatural.
Therefore the argument of if something is natural or not can't be used to morally justify it. It becomes a meaningless argument. According to that
argument murder should be allowed, it's completely natural. Animals in the wild do it right? Monkeys throw feces at each other. That's natural
right? But that doesn't mean it's proper behavior for humans.
So, in other words homosexuality may be a natural form of birth control, but that doesn't mean it's what God wanted for the Israelite people. He
made all kinds of demands of them that had nothing to do with what's natural or even morally right or wrong.
A lot of people get confused with sin=morally wrong. But that's a horrible definition. Something that's a sin isn't always morally wrong. A sin is
anything that separates you from God. Most of the time they are morally wrong, but not always.
Like when God asked the Israelites to not eat pork, even though the Gentiles COULD eat pork and still get into Heaven. Or when God asked the
Israelites not to wear clothes made of two different fabrics even though the Gentiles could wear them.
There was nothing morally wrong with eating pork or wearing clothes made of two different fabrics and doing either wouldn't keep you out of Heaven.
However, God wanted the Israelites to be a special people and separate themselves from how the rest of the world did things. Because you can't be
special if you're exactly like everyone else.
God simply wants us to forsake the world to draw closer to him. A sin is anything that gets in the way of that. Homosexuality you will find naturally
gets in the way of that and tends to draw one deeper into the world.
In certain types of homosexual relationships there's nothing really morally wrong. But let's look at heterosexual relationships for a second.
There's nothing really morally wrong with having consensual one night stands night after night. But if you do, you may very well end up focusing on
where your next lay is gonna come from instead of focusing your thoughts towards God where they belong. It gets in the way, and that's the problem.
STDs, and broken families without fathers can also get in the way. That's one reason why God wants us to be married if we're having sex. A church
going family is going to have a closer relationship with God.
Homosexuality is the same way. I know homosexuals and you'll find many of them have a straight up disdain for God because God desires them to give up
a part of their life. If you hate God that definitely would get in the way of having a relationship with him.
And some that don't hate God are many times too ashamed to walk in a church and the guilt they feel totally separated from God and spiritually
Everyone that wants to have a relationship with God is usually a "sinner". They're usually doing SOMETHING that gets in the way. Everyone has to
give up the stuff that gets in the way of having a relationship with the divine or you can't have a relationship with the divine. You'll always find
yourself off doing your thing instead of being in church, reading the Bible, or spreading the Gospel.