Can only end in VIOLENT Revolution, regardless you being goody two shoe

Originally posted by Tiger5
I used to believe in violent revolution until i saw the reality of the Soviet Block after the Berlin wall came down. Bloody revolutionis no joke and innocent men women and children will be slaughtered. A significant number of survivors will go insane from the horrors of a civil war.

But why is bloody revolution inevitable? It has not happened to date and who says that the will continue to be stupid and vicious?

Tiger, I hate to go "Spock" and all logical on you.

But the reason Berlin wall fell is because their present suffering was so big, they wanted to risk the revolution.

I argue that same thing will happen in US

Originally posted by hephalump
Americans would demand a return to the Constitution...

Yes, they would. But what in the world makes you think the guys with the most guns would listen? Why should they, they won...

LOL

The guys with the most guns and the guys winning the revolution would be

TAAA DDAAAA

American people. Who Else ?

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Do you honestly believe that it'll be one big homogeneous group all singing from the same hymnal? Really?

There are going to be zealots of any number of sorts... Racial separatists. Religious separatists. Regional separatists. ...and probably other ...'ists that aren't quite as obvious.

Don't get me wrong, that's a wonderful thought that a violent revolution would end with all the participants singing in harmony...

The odds? Not good.

Now, could they be brought together to repair what's shattered? Possibly...possibly. But my faith in humanity isn't that strong.

Originally posted by Druscilla
Let's make it simple: If violent revolution erupts in America, America will soon fall to OUTSIDE foreign powers.
America will cease to exist.
The Constitution will fade to the dust of History.

And just like Russia, all the Nukes as mentioned above, won't mean squat because quite a bit of them will find themselves soon on the open market.

You just don't understand

Russia can not attack United States because those Nuclear ICBMs have next to them locked up people.

Ready to push the button.

And that same Russia CAN NOT to anything to new United States because people will demand the restoration of the constitution to the fullest.

Russian soldier or diplomat can not come to say DO IT MY WAY, because it would be clearly Anti-Constitution.

Give American revolutionaries little more credit please.

Not everyone is a dumb ass. Leaders will find their way to lead when the time comes.

Originally posted by hephalump
Do you honestly believe that it'll be one big homogeneous group all singing from the same hymnal? Really?

There are going to be zealots of any number of sorts... Racial separatists. Religious separatists. Regional separatists. ...and probably other ...'ists that aren't quite as obvious.

Don't get me wrong, that's a wonderful thought that a violent revolution would end with all the participants singing in harmony...

The reason you think the way you do.

Is because government has not yet began disappearing dissidents on mass.

When they do, all those "ists" you mention will unite, the enemy will be so hated, Americans will join together.

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should the worst occur, a bloody revolution... I pray you're right, and that I'm wrong, I really do. Though I'd prefer the blood letting not occur at all.

Originally posted by hephalump
should the worst occur, a bloody revolution... I pray you're right, and that I'm wrong, I really do. Though I'd prefer the blood letting not occur at all.

I was reading ATS like 3 years ago, and I thought, yeah violence is not the path.

People can join together and vote for Ron Paul.

And then there were US fixed elections where people like Ron Paul were sabotaged and dismissed.

That's when I realized, the Banking-Military-Industrial-Complex can only be brought down with violence.

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The system is good. Everything is fine. You just need a good man.

Originally posted by JilianK

You just don't understand

Russia can not attack United States because those Nuclear ICBMs have next to them locked up people.

Ready to push the button.

And that same Russia CAN NOT to anything to new United States because people will demand the restoration of the constitution to the fullest.

Russian soldier or diplomat can not come to say DO IT MY WAY, because it would be clearly Anti-Constitution.

Give American revolutionaries little more credit please.

Not everyone is a dumb ass. Leaders will find their way to lead when the time comes.

You might want to visit Russia.
You might want to visit Russia and look at all the McDonalds, Starbucks and other AMERICAN companies ALL OVER the place.

It doesn't matter who's holding the guns or the nukes.
It matters who's got the organization, logistics, platform and money.

Revolution in America? The $$$ will plummet and become worthless.
Who else has money on the planet?
Who else has money on the planet that will have an interest in some USA real estate?

With US $ in freefall and essentially worthless, most imports will stop. People all over in infrastructure jobs will go moths without getting paid, including police, military, border patrol, security services, etc.

If USA can't protect itself from itself, there's no way it'll be able to stop anyone from anywhere just walking in with any sized army and taking up habitation without ever the need to fire a single shot.

Hungry people won't care where the food is coming from, or if the people handing it out come from China, Russia, N. Korea, the U. N., and they won't care what uniforms they're wearing, or if they're handing out food "relief" supplies from armored vehicles.

Nations, and Haliburtons from all over the world will be chomping at a chance to get at any pieces of the American pie that can get got.

Big name Military Industrial Complex companies will swear allegiance and cooperation to whoever looks like they'll give the best deal.
Lockheed's skunk works, as well as the databases and sever farms of any technical company worthy of mention will be open books for whoever wants to march in and claim it belongs to them.

Dream on, and keep dreaming of some US Constitution restored little dream, but, it's a dream of ignorance.

Originally posted by mideast
The system is good. Everything is fine. You just need a good man.

Happily married thank you

Originally posted by Druscilla

Revolution in America? The $$$ will plummet and become worthless.
Who else has money on the planet?
Who else has money on the planet that will have an interest in some USA real estate?

With US $ in freefall and essentially worthless, most imports will stop. People all over in infrastructure jobs will go moths without getting paid, including police, military, border patrol, security services, etc.

If USA can't protect itself from itself, there's no way it'll be able to stop anyone from anywhere just walking in with any sized army and taking up habitation without ever the need to fire a single shot.

Wrong wrong and more wrong

Druscilla first of all. It seems you are happy with the way things are. False flags, dead bodies, fake elections.

You obviously don't think any of that should be changed with a Violent Revolution.

You perhaps believe it should be changed with a peaceful revolution. OK. you go ahead and wait for peaceful revolution. In the mean time I hope you and your loved ones are not killed in the next False Flag.

OK

NOW lets get back to how a Violent Revolution would work.

What happens in a Violent Revolution, masses of people overwhelm the government army. People force the government into hidden underground cities (built with your taxpayer money Druscilla). Government uses the tunnels underneath USA to reach shores and escape to other countries. Europe. Columbia. Russia. China.

American revolutionaries take over the White House, Federal Reserve-Temple/synagog, Pentagon.

With a flip of a pen, we create a new National Bank, a new dollar backed by Gold Reserves.

AHA now you think you got me. There Are no Gold Reserves. That's ok.

We use what's left of the gold and create a reserve ratio comparable to available gold.

In other words we make the Gold worth a lot more of the New Currency. The Revolutionary Dollar.

We immediately start distribution of the new currency,

WE IMMEDIATELY START PRACTICING FLAT TAX, A FAIR TAX

Within 6 months, economy of USA starts humming with a new burning hope that hasn't been seen in 50 years.

We restore the American dream.

I suggest Druscilla you read more on how current system of Federal Reserve money works and why it is holding us back.

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Actually, if I get tired of the US, I'll move to Germany, or Sweden, or some other country.
You and everyone and anyone who gets kinky over that stuff can keep your nationalistic or patriotic religions.
I'll move to some place I won't have to worry about people foaming at the mouth and starting revolutions.

If someone desires, they're free to imagine a pipe dream revolution all they want, but, it won't work that way no matter how many flyers they make, banners they wave, stencils they spray, t-shirts they print, fists they clench, chants they chant, or rallies they attend.
Once an actual real violent revolution occurs in America, America is as good as gone.

Too much of the world economy exists and relies on a stable U.S. of A.
Once that stability falters, it'll be a free for all to grab at control.
If anyone thinks USA can have a squabble all its own by itself to itself be settled by Americans for Americans, they're sadly delusional, and entirely uneducated in how the world political stage is worked out.

It's one thing for some oil rich desert nations to set themselves on fire, or even higher profile nations like Egypt, but, a world power like the US going up in flames is going to pull every single nation on the planet into a tug-o-war over the spoils.

Originally posted by mideast
The system is good. Everything is fine. You just need a good man.

Hey wait a minute I had to get back to your post, you are kidding right ?

If not......that was mean

If you were echoing what someone ignorant would say, yeah good one.

Originally posted by Druscilla

Actually, if I get tired of the US, I'll move to Germany, or Sweden, or some other country.
You and everyone and anyone who gets kinky over that stuff can keep your nationalistic or patriotic religions.
I'll move to some place I won't have to worry about people foaming at the mouth and starting revolutions.

So I suppose your solution is to simply wait until we get to the point where government issues executive order of.

GIVE YOUR YOUNGEST CHILD OVER FOR SEXUAL EDUCATION IN PENTAGON RAPE FARMS

Don't worry, you'll get them back, they'll just be little abnormal and dissociated.

And let me guess, you think we can never get there.........right?

I guess we will just agree to disagree.

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It's very simple.
If you don't like where you live ... move.

Its a big planet.

All the self entitled cry baby nonsense is ridiculous.

Rape camps? What? Really?
These little arguments are getting conspicuously desperate and laughable now.

Are you telling me you've solved all the other problems on the planet like poverty, sex slavery, famine, social equality, and everything else that goes on all over the planet in other places that some mealy mouthed dissatisfaction with current state of America is more important?

MMmmkay.

You guys have fun with your Violent Revolution Pornography.
I'm done here.

Originally posted by JilianK

Originally posted by Druscilla

Actually, if I get tired of the US, I'll move to Germany, or Sweden, or some other country.
You and everyone and anyone who gets kinky over that stuff can keep your nationalistic or patriotic religions.
I'll move to some place I won't have to worry about people foaming at the mouth and starting revolutions.

So I suppose your solution is to simply wait until we get to the point where government issues executive order of.

GIVE YOUR YOUNGEST CHILD OVER FOR SEXUAL EDUCATION IN PENTAGON RAPE FARMS

Don't worry, you'll get them back, they'll just be little abnormal and dissociated.

And let me guess, you think we can never get there.........right?

I guess we will just agree to disagree.

What on earth are you jibbering about?

I would hate to be as paranoid as some people on here.

When you draw your last breath, and nothing has changed, you'l think...

"Man, I wasted my life worrying about nonsense"

You guys have fun with your Violent Revolution Pornography.
I'm done here.

Theres a A lot of anger in your soul Druscilla. Btw Aliens do exist down under.

Why is it that so many see Revolution as an answer to anything?

Is it all the Hollywood movies that always seem to show Revolution ending well and some better world to emerge from the other end of it? How about the reality of it, instead? For every American Revolution or French one in history, there are a dozen African brush fire wars or Banana Republic overthrows of nations or even empires, both large and small...where things never recovered in a meaningful way and eventually new systems either came to pass or ...(looks across much of Africa) ..nothing much has changed to this day.

America is so diverse and so polarized by that diversity through deliberate manipulation of the public, revolution to bring down civil order is a worst case scenario. You would NEVER have just 2 sides here. "Us" and "Them" for the people and Government. In addition, you'll have the extreme rights and lefts, blacks/whites/koreans/mexicans and other sub groups with their OWN fights and OWN serious agendas to fight for.

I can't see anything good at the end of a revolution in modern American. Nothing good at all. I see death by the stadium full and I see a collapse of the best structure for a system man's had in recent history (however it's been warped over time) ..but I don't see something better on the other end. Just fracturing and chaos.

Originally posted by Druscilla

All the self entitled cry baby nonsense is ridiculous.

Rape camps? What? Really?
These little arguments are getting conspicuously desperate and laughable now.

Here Druscilla

I hope you find these nice people murdered by US government on 9/11 laughable and nonsense as well.

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Well that is nonsense as they were murdered by Middle eastern religious fanatics.

Their deaths however were not nonsense, but are indicative or a religious "revolution"

Irony.