Report: Saudi Arabia points missiles at Israel and Iran

reply to post by pavil


Indeed.. I tend to agree with you entirely. Hence..why I said this was almost SO obvious as to be little more than a warning and statement. The Kingdom has as much money in personal Royal checking accounts as most nations have for a GDP. They aren't using 1980's Missiles on manually aimed launch pads as their primary defense or offense capability ...but it sure makes a statement like few other things can, eh? A modern missile can be debated as to who it may be aimed at, after all. These old antiques leave absolutely no doubt. Kinda like having a gun pointed at you and kept that way, day in and day out. Statements, indeed.

reply to post by TheEthicalSkeptic

Great info! I didn't realise they used vanes in the nozzles rather than steering the nozzle itself.

It seems even specialised journalists are about as useful as 'normal' journalists...

let them get on with it if they want to wipe each other out it will not bother me .

nobody i know works in the arms trade and ladies are allowed to drive where i am from .

we do not need israel or saudi arabia the world would be a better place without the two holy sites .

nuke both of them what is the point of your tax dollars having all that nukes / aircraft carriers etc etc and not using them .

kill them all god will protect his own remember albert pikes three world wars

reply to post by Logical one
sorry man, Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal it the world, the U.S.A. is second. Just want people to have the facts

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Israel is at serious risk from Saudis.

Saudis are no friend of Israel.

Rise of Sunni political power in Egypt and Syria is very dangerous to Israel.

Israel does not understand that it can be overwhelmed by conventional power alone. A very large army together with plenty of missiles can overtake its defenses. This is seen by me in my vision too.

Unfortunately neither USA nor Israel will heed to good advice. Both nations have decided that technology will deliver for them. It will not. We have a saying in Sanskrit "Vinasht Kaale' Vipreet Buddhi" - that means the mind acts in opposite to common sense when bad times arrive.

I see destruction of Israel through wrong actions of USA. Unfortunately Jew are very powerful in USA, and are policy makers. So I would not be wrong in saying that Jews themselves are ensuring Israel's destruction.

Israels enemies however DO understand that they can be nuked to oblivion so thats why no invasion or attack with conventional power. Duh. Works both ways.

Why does Syria keep saying if Israel hit them again they would immediately respond back? Well Israel did thi past Tuesday and Syria hasnt done ish. Why? Because they know what it will get them. All they can do is talk.

Originally posted by GargIndia
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Israel is at serious risk from Saudis.

Saudis are no friend of Israel.

Rise of Sunni political power in Egypt and Syria is very dangerous to Israel.

Israel does not understand that it can be overwhelmed by conventional power alone. A very large army together with plenty of missiles can overtake its defenses. This is seen by me in my vision too.

Unfortunately neither USA nor Israel will heed to good advice. Both nations have decided that technology will deliver for them. It will not. We have a saying in Sanskrit "Vinasht Kaale' Vipreet Buddhi" - that means the mind acts in opposite to common sense when bad times arrive.

I see destruction of Israel through wrong actions of USA. Unfortunately Jew are very powerful in USA, and are policy makers. So I would not be wrong in saying that Jews themselves are ensuring Israel's destruction.

Saudi Arabia Is US/Israel ally

They are pointing at Iran and Syria/Hezbollah

reply to post by GargIndia

Israel does not understand that it can be overwhelmed by conventional power alone. A very large army together with plenty of missiles can overtake its defenses. This is seen by me in my vision too.

Well it is true to say that if there were a successful deployment of EMP's in several key locations or some other as yet publicly unknown method of negating technology as the advantage, even Israel with it's sheer tenacity could be overrun by a combined effort of those around them. The same could be said for the U.S.. Last I heard Annapolis Naval Academy (The Navy's Military School for leaders and fast track officers) wasn't teaching celestial navigation at all anymore. (If I'm wrong now, I'd love to be corrected) The Officers coming out probably couldn't' tell a sextant from a red light worker in Bangkok. Tooo much depedency on technology, indeed. Far far tooo much.

Originally posted by Jumadax
They are pointing at Iran and Syria/Hezbollah

Most in the US are not fully aware of the animosity which exists between Saudi Arabia and Iran. The animosity is rooted in ancient empire competition, ethnicity, and religious sect most recently - but runs very deep. When I am in Saudi Arabia I refrain from calling the Gulf, the 'Persian Gulf' and instead refer to it as the 'Arabian Gulf.'

The missiles are placed just on the opposite side of Riyadh from Iran, which is probably one of the biggest indicators of their purpose. They are just outside the Missile Engagement Envelope of an aircraft which has had to drop tanks because it has been intercepted and engaged by a Saudi National Guard fighter originating from the North Riyadh Airbase.

This placement speaks volumes. The pads are placed not so far from the Riyadh national guard concentrations that they cannot be reasonably defended, nor logistically supported, but not so close so as to be hit by the same force which is under air to air engagement.

At least my assessment.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Saudis have a hand in every Muslim insurgency - from Indonesia, China, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and beyond.

It will be silly to assume they are providing this massive financial support just for religious reasons.

Saudis have aspirations of a unified Muslim kingdom that rivals or greater than the Turkic kingdoms at the height of its power.

Saudis have literally bought USA and France is next to fall.

I think Obama has been brought for a reason. He is there till 2016 Jan. This person may have been installed to destroy American power.

An Israel without USA is a sitting duck. Having a zillion nukes is no good if you are forced to fight a conventional war.

Israel's iron shield is over-hyped. Israel has no effective protection from short range missiles. Missiles can easily evade a defensive mechanism by maneuvering, a technique widely used today by many countries. Radar can be evaded by energy absorbing coatings which are also in use by many countries. Small missiles are very small radar target which can be further reduced by energy absorbing paints.

The million dollar question is Egypt. Too much money is being provided by Qatar and Saudi to Egypt. If they buy Egypt and have a friendly Govt in Egypt, all bets are off for Israel.

The best deal for USA and Israel is to normalize relations with Iran. However that means displeasing Saudis. If USA has guts left, that is what it should do. Iran can be a counterweight to Saudis.

reply to post by Logical one
well no one is willing to say it or admit but where did the 911 terrorist come from? Would they do it again, this time with nukes, given the chance? You bet they would, now some might say OSB did the bank roll but then to do it he would have to had the blessing of Saudi Arabia.

To quote a very wise man , back before Damascus was in their grip " Long be a little people, a silly people - greedy, barbarous, and cruel, as you are" for they will never change til they have all the earth as their own, and even then be a little people, a silly people - greedy, barbarous, and cruel.For it is their nature, and in their Nature is their fault, for they see not of the world but see the world as theirs.

reply to post by bekod


The 911 is a false flag attack, designed and made in Pentagon.

The Saudi hijackers were there just for show. They had to be Saudis because who else will execute such a sordid plot with CIA.

Iraq had no hands in 911.

You forget Osama was a Saudi. Osama was a lunatic and a provider of the hijackers.

These crazy hijacker Saudis had no capability to put those planes into WTC towers. The planes were flown by remote control.

You must understand the nature of your own government. But people refuse to learn. Things do not change by hoping.

reply to post by GargIndia
who do you think OSB is ? for i will not say his name for it will give him the satisfaction of it being said posted written, If you know their culture they have to have the blessing if not a bounty is put on them he did not have a bounty ion him by the Saudis just the US here is a look in to them www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com... or will you still say no it was the US , yes the US had a part in letting it happen , by fault of or lack of info whom is to say US did it before, before 911, before 93WTC truck bombing,so why not again on 91101.

reply to post by TheEthicalSkeptic
How true your words are for most of the west does not nor will admit to the hate and blood lust between the 2 nations, for here is a glimpse of the war that will become fact some day some day soon online.wsj.com... from the link

April 16, 2011

The New Cold War
There has long been bad blood between Iran and Saudi Arabia, but popular protests across the Middle East now threaten to turn the rivalry into a tense and dangerous regional divide.

By
BILL SPINDLE
and
MARGARET COKER
Cold War cover
Edel Rodriguez for The Wall Street Journal

Many see a heightened possibility of actual military conflict in the Gulf, where one-fifth of the world's oil supplies traverse the shipping lanes.

For three months, the Arab world has been awash in protests and demonstrations. It's being called an Arab Spring, harking back to the Prague Spring of 1968.

But comparison to the short-lived flowering of protests 40 years ago in Czechoslovakia is turning out to be apt in another way. For all the attention the Mideast protests have received, their most notable impact on the region thus far hasn't been an upswell of democracy. It has been a dramatic spike in tensions between two geopolitical titans, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

This new Middle East cold war comes complete with its own spy-versus-spy intrigues, disinformation campaigns, shadowy proxy forces, supercharged state rhetoric—and very high stakes.

"The cold war is a reality," says one senior Saudi official. "Iran is looking to expand its influence. This instability over the last few months means that we don't have the luxury of sitting back and watching events unfold."

will see if there is a newer article Found one www.worldtribune.com... from the link

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Thursday, July 11th, 2013 | Posted by WorldTribune.com
Saudi and Israeli strategic interests in post-Morsi Egypt

Special to WorldTribune.com

By Brian M Downing

Over the last few years, Saudi Arabia and Israel have been aligned on critical matters. The two powers are engaged in attacking Iran and its nuclear capacity, ousting the Assad government from Syria, and unseating Hizbullah in Lebanon.

So determined are the two countries to stop the Iranian nuclear program that Saudi Arabia would likely allow Israeli F-15s to use its airspace to attack the facilities at Natanz, Fordo, and Parchin.
King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia speaks to Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi in July 2012 in Jeddah. /Reuters

King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia speaks to Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi in July 2012 in Jeddah. /Reuters

There have been no public displays of cordiality, of course, and no one has seen anything but a temporary alignment before a return to confrontation, chiefly over the Palestinian question. Each power has sharply different interests in Egypt, which have become more obvious following the recent military coup.

Saudi Arabia is horrified by the rise of democracy in the region. Representative government is, in the Saudi view, an affront to religious stricture and a threat to the family-run state. Saudi Arabia is especially hostile to the Muslim Brotherhood, which though deeply religious, is adamantly opposed to monarchal authority – a message it has at times tried to spread inside the Kingdom.

Saudi influence figured in the recent ouster of the Brotherhood’s President Morsi. Riyadh withheld aid and oil supplies, aggravating the economic woes that weakened Morsi.

Significantly, only days after the coup ousted Morsi, and while the U.S. pondered a curtailment of aid, Saudi Arabia stepped in with lavish economic aid and sorely needed fuel deliveries – a transparent effort to reward the military and woo the public.

what was true then is true now " Your enemy is my enemy, therefore we are friends" form the link

So determined are the two countries to stop the Iranian nuclear program that Saudi Arabia would likely allow Israeli F-15s to use its airspace to attack the facilities at Natanz, Fordo, and Parchin.

Now that Morsi is out, this might have changed

reply to post by bekod


The root is oil. Saudis must be paying good money to the British and American oil companies for "services" and "equipment".

If you follow the money trail, it will all become clear.

People do not die for free. Millions are paid to their families. Forget the Muslim stories about heaven and virgins.

This is a war where every tool is being used.

reply to post by bekod


Saudi are no friends of either USA or Israel.

Saudi are only good for paying to get their work done. They pay good money to the important actors to get what they want.

A lot of relevant figures are not easily available, but focus on investment income transferred from Saudi Arabia to UK and USA. This should be the place to start.

Corruption of elite is the biggest problem in the USA. And this corruption is sustained by the wasteful system of elections. The elections are so expensive that an honest person can never win.