posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 10:51 AM
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by frazzle
Oh, I do agree it's not and it was off topic there to bring into it...but as false flags go? That one's too provably false in every way to label
that way to just let go without comment. Aside from that, my Father was out serving with some of the men who were in that "engagement" years
afterward. Navy career guys are a strange breed....but they are a gossipy breed too. It wouldn't have been secret for long ..and wasn't for that
matter. One big screw up and fur ball that got played to field goal....in a losing game as it happens.
Fortunately in Egypt it's a lot more clear cut and we should cut OUT. I mean this is Egyptian sorting out issues with other Egyptians (Or close
enough with the Muslim Brotherhood and their motley crew) and this seemingly insane 'need' people have for getting into the middle of other
people's fights ...from the school yard to the global stage ...never solves or ends anything. It just postpones it and makes it worse.
So heck.. I'd say let them sort it all out and it may not even be a REAL bad idea to keep non-essential people out of Egypt for quite a while.
Benghazi hurt real real bad and it showed the world's worst people that it CAN be done and it CAN be gotten away with. It'll happen again now and
pray it's not a full blown and staffed Embassy, I'd say.
The discrepancy between what is a false flag and "just lies" is the problem. There doesn't seem to be a word that captures "just lies" that are
deliberately told that end up getting millions of people killed. "Just lies" is so inadequate that in my mind that they either qualify as false
flags or a new word needs be adopted to define it properly. Murderous lies in the first degree is more appropriate Otherwise its just excuses we tell
ourselves to allay our guilt in accepting those lies.
Like the whopper about Niger yellow cake that was a precursor to shock and awe and the subsequent bombing that literally destructed an entire
sovereign nation that was guilty of nothing with extreme prejudice, somebody should have fried for that "just lie", but we aren't even sure who
WROTE the memo. And no one cares anyway unless they happen to live in that destroyed country. So its on to MORE Muslim countries to destroy and no one
bats an eye. Hardly anyone even sees it for what it is.
The so called west has been meddling in the middle east almost since the beginning. The crusades, WWI, WWII, dumping Israel right in the middle of
Arab countries, the Camp David Accords, that old Egyptian horse hauler called the USS Liberty, the massacre of American soldiers who shouldn't have
even been in Beirut to begin with, Iran contra, the Iran/Iraq war. It goes on and on and on and the American people wave their little Chinese made
flags and chant USA USA USA. I am so tired of living on this freaking insane planet.
Egypt is not clear cut unless you live in the US and accept the drivel US media feeds us "these are the good guys and these are the bad guys, now sit
down and shut up and for God's sake, DON'T THINK." Egypt is very complicated, its overrun with foreigners with mixed purposes along side a very
confused populous and we will NOT cut out. And yes, the constant meddling in other people's business just makes things worse.
And keeping in mind, the US is overrun with foreigners with mixed purposes too. And we're confused, too. It won't end well.
Marcus Tullius Cicero
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he
is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys,
heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their
face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and
unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”