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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
He doesn't know squat about Jesus and apparently never read Revelation where Jesus says He is the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last. OT titles of YHVH.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
He doesn't know squat about Jesus and apparently never read Revelation where Jesus says He is the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last. OT titles of YHVH.
Indeed, but muslim ignore the NT so i went straight to the OT. Been doing that a lot lately it seems, as if the NT isn't a good enough reference for them that they should have a need for something far older, as if they wouldn't ignore that too and say it was corrupted by jews.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
He doesn't know squat about Jesus and apparently never read Revelation where Jesus says He is the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last. OT titles of YHVH.
Indeed, but muslim ignore the NT so i went straight to the OT. Been doing that a lot lately it seems, as if the NT isn't a good enough reference for them that they should have a need for something far older, as if they wouldn't ignore that too and say it was corrupted by jews.
Did you mean Mormons?
And I didn't know they ignore it.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
He doesn't know squat about Jesus and apparently never read Revelation where Jesus says He is the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last. OT titles of YHVH.
Indeed, but muslim ignore the NT so i went straight to the OT. Been doing that a lot lately it seems, as if the NT isn't a good enough reference for them that they should have a need for something far older, as if they wouldn't ignore that too and say it was corrupted by jews.
Did you mean Mormons?
And I didn't know they ignore it. And lastly, I know Beck doesn't, he references NT passages or verses from time to time on Sirius XM.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by The GUT
Long time no see bro, where you been hanging out?
Originally posted by winofiend
Only through the use of the imagination does god exist, therefore all of religion is based on the imagination.
How people just refuse to accept this is either sheer insanity or utter ignorance.
Without humans, what praises god?
Without imagination, what praises god?
Without EVIDENCE, what praises god?
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by jeramie
I am fairly sure Winofiend would call that circular reasoning. Using the Bible to prove itself. You should go with the other evidence you mention.edit on 6-7-2013 by Lucid Lunacy because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by jeramie
I am fairly sure Winofiend would call that circular reasoning. Using the Bible to prove itself. You should go with the other evidence you mention.edit on 6-7-2013 by Lucid Lunacy because: (no reason given)
We don't need other "evidence" other than the scripture itself. The bible does prove God exists because of the hidden spiritual meaning, that is his unique signature, the allegory hidden within it tells the future. God's advanced foreknowledge is the proof of his existence. The Torah itself is a roadmap to the future, from Christ's first advent till his second appearance, even though it was written 1500 years before he came it details what would later come, a foreshadowing. Those who have the Holy Spirit in them can see these things.
Shalom.edit on 6-7-2013 by lonewolf19792000 because: (no reason given)
You don't have to understand the Trinity, I doubt any human mind can, but you can't state it's not biblical, there's too much evidence there for it to be supported.
We don't need other "evidence" other than the scripture itself. The bible does prove God exists because of the hidden spiritual meaning, that is his unique signature, the allegory hidden within it tells the future. God's advanced foreknowledge is the proof of his existence. The Torah itself is a roadmap to the future, from Christ's first advent till his second appearance, even though it was written 1500 years before he came it details what would later come, a foreshadowing. Those who have the Holy Spirit in them can see these things.
-both came late in the game, and we're spin offs of Judaism/Christianity
And you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free
How does an unbeliever acquire the holy spirit when one is unequipped to understand this proof without it?
Because truth seeking Christians that have refused to be influenced by past dogma from the 4th century, come to understand God and Jesus are united in thought, deed and purpose, but not as an entity. They learn the Trinity is a false doctrine inspired by pagan culture.
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
The interesting comment in this interview is where the Trinitarian admits that this is one of the most debated topics of theology in the history of Christianity. And why is that ? Because truth seeking Christians that have refused to be influenced by past dogma from the 4th century, come to understand God and Jesus are united in thought, deed and purpose, but not as an entity. They learn the Trinity is a false doctrine inspired by pagan culture. Thus they have the epiphany that this whole concept was planted there by the devil to aid in the further corruption of the church.
SO.....
John 8:32
And you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free