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Originally posted by cavtrooper7
reply to post by crazyewok
We haven't LOST anything.We got stuck with a bunch of liars,but hey if anyone wants to move to the Rodina or finds Russia to be a good steward go for it,I'm with the Dying guy,we aren't alone we are just quite.
If Russia wants to get their feet in camel dung I say go for it,the attention will then turn on them and their evil and guess what?It will still be just Russia and we will still be America.
You think American troops are so evil well,it is to laugh.edit on 23-6-2013 by cavtrooper7 because: finished my pointedit on 23-6-2013 by cavtrooper7 because: mISsplled
Originally posted by 23432
Originally posted by ObservingYou
Having said all this - I just hope he destroys the west. I don't mind immigrating to Russia.edit on Sun Jun 23 2013 by DontTreadOnMe because: Reaffirming Our Desire For Productive Political Debate (REVISED)
You have a very romantic view of Russia .
Originally posted by Arnie123
Originally posted by cavtrooper7
reply to post by crazyewok
We haven't LOST anything.We got stuck with a bunch of liars,but hey if anyone wants to move to the Rodina or finds Russia to be a good steward go for it,I'm with the Dying guy,we aren't alone we are just quite.
If Russia wants to get their feet in camel dung I say go for it,the attention will then turn on them and their evil and guess what?It will still be just Russia and we will still be America.
You think American troops are so evil well,it is to laugh.edit on 23-6-2013 by cavtrooper7 because: finished my pointedit on 23-6-2013 by cavtrooper7 because: mISsplled
My point exactly. After seeing Russia's handling of Afghanistan from the years prior, I'm pretty sure all this is hot air with the Syrians. I find it sooooo damned funny that people are putting there faith in Russia. This should be an interesting showdown and when the hot air has been expended, these same users will fade quietly into the night. "What was that?" my thoughts exactly...
Originally posted by Arnie123
I haven't lost nothing and as far as I'm concerned, all this talk about the What ifs and What abouts has yet to happened, your sirs have jumped the gun and assumed we have lost.
Originally posted by Arnie123
Far as I'm concerned I'm still here, I still have my voice along with the people, why we haven't done anything, well there is a time and place for that.
Originally posted by Arnie123
Your a defeatist, you see a man in the dark alley, you look down and walk away. I see a man in a dark alley, I say, "Sup" and continue on with my business. Reading your post puts all that into perspective about the kind of person you are.
Originally posted by Arnie123
I don't have to agree with the brass on this situation, but that doesn't mean America and its people are defeated.
You are very wrong and very mistaken, lol people are sooooo gullible.
Originally posted by Arnie123
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The only ignorance I see is these post of yours
Your right, I would rank Syria and Russia as a 3rd world oppressive hell hole, you got me there!!
It is a case with the USA, like I said, its our leaders, not of the people, a fact that you seem all too ignorant to see or understand, but then again I don't expect you too anyways, *Sigh* foolishness of people, I swear.
Originally posted by crazyewok
I would say allowing your goverment to become so corrupted and evil to the point of ignoring and stomping over all you hold dear be it illegal detainment without trials, warrentless searchs like in Boston and illegal survaliance is a defeat.
Maybe not a permanent one but still a defeat.
My point is the argument of if you dont like the USA go live in (insert crap hole here) is 100% rubbish as there are plenty of countrys that are NOT opressive crap holes.
Originally posted by Nucleardiver
I am curious as to where you live because unless you live in the rainforest somewhere or anyplace similar and are a member of a small isolated and remote tribe then you have also been subject to a tyrannical and oppressive government, it's not just America or Russia, or The UK.
Originally posted by Nucleardiver
Running does nothing but prolong the inevitable and if you think this is a US only problem you are so wrong, it is a world agenda. Actually as bad as it is here in the US it is far from a "crap hole", I have been all over this world to more countries than I can count and trust me there are much worse places and many of them are in the EU.
The elites around the world wish for nothing more than complete control of the masses so they may create their utopian elitist system. As has happened throughout history the people will have enough and the government will go too far and that's when there will be a chance to throw off the oppression and start anew.
Russia's involvement in Afghanistan and Russia's involvement in Syria are 2 totally different comparisons, in fact I don't know if you could compare the two. Putin was not making the calls during the Afghan conflict and Russia's military is much stronger and much more advanced than it was during the 80's. There were many other factors outside of Afghanistan that were involved with the way Russia handled the Soviet Afghan War as well, a big factor was the cold war between Russia and the US.
Now Russia's military is much stronger as well as it's leadership, instead of having Leonid Brezhnev and Mikhail Gorbachev leading the nation you have Putin, a much more devout military man with a stronger since of nationalism. No this would unfold to be a much different scenario than Russia's involvement in Afghan, the players are different, the circumstances are different, and the agenda is different.
Originally posted by Alternative4u
The world map shortly without America being anywhere on it will look odd, the ground in America will not be fit to live on, grow food on for many years, the American Obama clown will be back living in the bush in some Muslim place where he come from and my very good relations and all my many very nice kind American people I know and love will be toast when Russia sorts the mess your President has made, unless a sane person who knows what needs doing does it, that may save the USA if it's not too late by then, you need President John Kennedy type at this time, he at least had common sense and loved America, sadly your current clown hates everything you sand for.
Originally posted by princeofpeace
Ummmm negative!!! Russia was still a SUPERPOWER in the 80's. Right now they JUST put in place a 10 year modernization effort that has JUST STARTED. Much of Russia advanced weapony is actually for sale by its defense contractors and hasnt even made it way into their own military.
And i dont care how much of a badass Putin thinks he is, he isnt the one out there fighting.
Originally posted by iBallinU
Originally posted by princeofpeace
Ummmm negative!!! Russia was still a SUPERPOWER in the 80's. Right now they JUST put in place a 10 year modernization effort that has JUST STARTED. Much of Russia advanced weapony is actually for sale by its defense contractors and hasnt even made it way into their own military.
And i dont care how much of a badass Putin thinks he is, he isnt the one out there fighting.
Russia is still a world power. Second only to the United States.
Their modernization plans have not JUST started, they've been happening for quite some time now.
It's not all about brand new shiny big weapons like the PAK-FA. ...there's a lot more going on that you don't know about because it's not sexy enough for the Western media to use for negative articles about Russia rebuilding it's military into a threat to world peace.
There's a reason why Georgia was left to fend for it self when the Russian army rolled across the border.
Because trying to take on a power like Russia will end up in a nuclear war.
That's why the major powers do NOT fight directly against each other, and instead use proxy wars, like Syria.
It's called MAD. Russia's military in general may have seen some dramatic declines, but it's nuclear arsenal has never been questioned. It has enough fire power to destroy the planet many many times over. The only other country with as much fire power is the United States.
If Russia's interests and security is threatened, the Russian's will use their military might to put a stop to it. And there isn't a damn thing that anyone else on the planet is going to do to stop them.
It's a game of chess.
The reason the Americans were involved in Georgia is because of pipelines. That's one of the major reasons for a lot of whats going on in the wider region out there. Competing pipeline projects. He who controls the oil and gas flows..
If Russia decides simply sending weapons to Assad is not enough, and deploys it's military to crush the FSA, then you watch how quickly nobody will lift a finger to help the FSA.
Thing's are getting real again. Russia isn't a dormant former super power anymore. It's an angry bear that's come out of hibernation and it's pretty pissed off at what the other animals in the zoo have been getting up to.