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I thought it was pretty clear that Athlons solution was not getting rid of the ego but to focus it on a greater challenge. Egos will be egos while humanity considers itself the dominant species of the planet.
Originally posted by TheomExperience
reply to post by BDBinc
I thought it was pretty clear that Athlons solution was not getting rid of the ego but to focus it on a greater challenge. Egos will be egos while humanity considers itself the dominant species of the planet. What if we are not though, that is something to consider.
When i was younger i could walk outside and smash an ants nest without any consideration. Now that i realize we are somewhat ants to something else, i would not like this done to me and i do not do things to others unless i can accept it done to me.
Venturing into space will essentially force humanity to realize how fragile we are as a species and perhaps change our attitudes towards each other.
Some of those ants nests would take a tremendous group effort to achieve but it is required for the survival of the colony.
In conclusion space is not the final frontier but realization is.
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by TheomExperience
I thought it was pretty clear that Athlons solution was not getting rid of the ego but to focus it on a greater challenge. Egos will be egos while humanity considers itself the dominant species of the planet.
This was my point, exactly. The human ego cant be destroyed but it can be challenged. If it becomes too big for the worlds boots then send it out to somewhere it can faces it ultimate foe.
Originally posted by BDBinc
No clearly it was clearly proposing space travel and colonizing other planets for the problems that he said was of the ego.
1)We already know how fragile our bodies are we do not need to learn that.
2)Don't you think we have enough challenges?
Self realization is the only solution.
Going to the moon did not bring any of the astros self realization . The knowledge you are looking for is not out there for it is within you.
Originally posted by TheomExperience
Originally posted by BDBinc
No clearly it was clearly proposing space travel and colonizing other planets for the problems that he said was of the ego.
1)We already know how fragile our bodies are we do not need to learn that.
2)Don't you think we have enough challenges?
Self realization is the only solution.
Going to the moon did not bring any of the astros self realization . The knowledge you are looking for is not out there for it is within you.
I guess you have to use your imagination instead of focusing on what you think you know.
Yes we have enough challenges here right now however they all seem to be related to humans, call them elite if you want, becoming the dominant faction among our own species.
Going into space may not be the answer, however what humanity may discover as a result might be something to galvanize our species.
You interpreted my reference to fragile in regards to a body, however i was referring to the whole species in general. This is just a case of egos not being on the "same page".
Originally posted by TheomExperience
Imagine a scenario where we get into space and yes humanity is still out of control. Then our species stumbles upon another species who considers us ants.
They do not necessarily want to eradicate us but they see us as an annoyance to their ways and have no qualms in destroying us either if we get in the way.
Every human being learns that we are not alone and reconsiders their position of power given that if the species continues its parasitic way we will all be eliminated altogether.
The entire species might all have the self realization that you speak of when money and power doesn't eliminate the need for personal responsibility.
Originally posted by TheomExperience
My question to you would be how do you "make" someone else realize something that you have realized? Don't you think as a species we could have solved world problems by now if this was as easy as saying "look within"?
The problems are glaringly obvious but until the ego is fed the right substance it will just continue to devour other egos and it is indifferent to duality its just hungry. I hope i haven't confused you by symbolizing the ego as a "being".
Originally posted by TheomExperience
reply to post by BDBinc
Serve the ego up some fear. Not fear of one another but fear of something bigger than the species.
Well now, my ego likes to feed off parasitical intelligences (those that project themselves onto me)
Besides nibbling here and there i also attempt mental alchemy to rehabilitate those intelligences so i consider this a fair exchange.
This is not a solution to the global issues though, i think people expressing themselves brutally honest to one another might be a better solution to ego outweighing intelligence.
Originally posted by BDBinc
What for the ego is a bigger fear than annihilation? What do you think is bigger than that out in space.
People are living in fear and still you think more fear is the solution.
Do you feed greed a diet of greed, think anger should feed on anger.
For will that not make the anger, greed and ego bigger.
I have proposed the opposite.
Originally posted by TheomExperience
]People live in fear of one another. This is not apples for apples when dealing with another species above humanity on the food chain.
Originally posted by BDBinc
Why do you think fear of annihilation (by another species/race) is any different to fear of annihilation.
Love is not conditional desire.Lets assume nothing about peoples actions (least we forget lust, attachment, anger, ego and greed as obstacle generators).
If everyone follows the path of love then everyone follows the path of love .
Fear has not been a better "motivator" people go mad with fear, mass fear campaigns have been used to control.
What about the ego feeding -does any human being need to think he/she is bigger/better than another.
(The "I" concept is the ego.)
I agree our species has to stop seeing the differences.edit on 19-6-2013 by BDBinc because: (no reason given)