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What happened before the big bang?
Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by FlySolo
You know I was going to say you can't undo time but funny part is in QM you can, We have shown the future can change the past so now that I think about it makes a different perspective on where the biginnibg is.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by FlySolo
You know I was going to say you can't undo time but funny part is in QM you can, We have shown the future can change the past so now that I think about it makes a different perspective on where the biginnibg is.
Lol, can you provide a source which describes this statement being true? (the future changing the past)
Originally posted by FlySolo
reply to post by dragonridr
Reading your article. I think I have another theory about time, universe etc. While our time is linear to us, perhaps, wait for it....drum roll please...
Time is moving backwards!
Let me explain. Let's assume the "now" is based on future decisions from the quantum world. The delayed choice experiment shows this. Yet, to our senses in the 3rd D, it is a mirrored effect of time in the 4th D. This would fit in perfectly to explain how future choices affect the past (present). It would also explain why the universe is accelerating as opposed to decelerating. It would also explain why we can't fathom a "beginning" because there is no beginning yet. The universe's creation is based on quantum future events.
Now my brain hurts
Originally posted by Minus
As the black holes sucks up more and more matherial they greatly increase in power - physichs we yet dont understand - and at the end they will suck in all matter and energy and atract each other in to one big implosion and enter a state theres was right before the big bang.
as this state cannot be maintained for very long it will re explode into a new big bang, and 13 billion yearts later some semi intelligent idiots will sit in a forum and discuss what happened before the big bang
Originally posted by FlySolo
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People
That does fit nicely into this as well. Pretty much describes what we already know about evolution. Just had a thought come to mind to describe how I see it regarding entropy.
a movie in reverse.edit on 29-6-2013 by FlySolo because: better example
Originally posted by FlySolo
reply to post by dragonridr
I think what your referring to is Wheeler's delayed choice experiment. It's rather mind numbing once you wrap your head around it. First you need to understand the Copenhagen experiment (double slit theory) then take that a step further.
With every delayed choice you make regarding which slit to watch photons travel trough, the (future) photons will already know your (past) decision. While what you may think is the "present" choice, is really a choice from the past seeing the photons already made their choice before you made yours.
Ouch.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by dragonridr
Hm interesting, I personally dont believe quantum entanglement is 'quantum entanglement', so I dont know what to make of it. What do you make of it, what is the logical conclusion to arrive at given all details of the experiment and knowledge of the universe? That when you measure light at point A, light measured at point B is also affected?
"People like us who believe in physics know that the distinction between the past, the present and the future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion" Albert Einstein
Originally posted by dragonridr
Well i see 3 possibilities all very strange. But it involves time i think we have very little understanding of time funny thing is we think we do. first thing is time is now past and present dont exist just now problem is now is dependent on the observer einstein showed us this. We know we can have people living in different versions of time at the same time so think everything thats ever happened or will happen is happening right now!
"People like us who believe in physics know that the distinction between the past, the present and the future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion" Albert Einstein
The other possibility is time is fixed kind of picture a universe where past present and future occupy the same space this means that essentially the universe is in essence layers of time occupying the same space just not the same time.Each can have there reactions creating a new page so to speak. So when we move thru time we move through kinda layers best example is drawing pictures on pages then flip through them they appear to move.
And finally the universe is predetermined so anything cant happen because it all ready did and can be no other way throws free will out the window not very fond of this one.