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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I can't see how having a gun could make me feel more safe. Is having a gun to compensate for some self-perceived inadequacy or something? I certainly don't feel the need for it.
To each their own opinions...and as the OP said, the survey says otherwise for a good % of your fellow citizens. Sans competing data to show otherwise? I take his OP and data as valid for what it shows. It would seem your opinion is certainly not the prevailing one, based upon that.edit on 31-5-2013 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)
The Woolwich Two come along and suddenly we're all shivering in our boots - when in fact, they're just random crazies and this has been the first Islamic extremist attack on British soil since 2005? Wow, we really need them guns don't we?
Originally posted by seabag
Originally posted by DISRAELI
reply to post by seabag
85 percent of the people who bother to fill in an online poll is not the same thing as 85 percent of the country.
The process of asking "what different thing do you want to happen?" is automatically skewed in favour of those who want something different.
Are you saying these results mean nothing?
Or are you saying polls only mean something when there is an outcome you agree with?
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by HomoSapiensSapiens
The Woolwich Two come along and suddenly we're all shivering in our boots - when in fact, they're just random crazies and this has been the first Islamic extremist attack on British soil since 2005? Wow, we really need them guns don't we?
Muslim extremists aren't the problem entirely. It's funny that so many act as though violent crime simply doesn't exist in UK.
Laughable! :lol
Regardless of whether polls agree with my sentiments or not, I take them with a pinch of salt. If polls were anything to go by, Mitt Romney would be President, Labour would be a majority government in the UK and Britain would have left the EU.
Originally posted by nake13
reply to post by seabag
I quite agree that we in the UK should have the option of carrying hand guns.If Drummer Lee Rigby had had that option,the chances are that he would be alive today.
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by HomoSapiensSapiens
Regardless of whether polls agree with my sentiments or not, I take them with a pinch of salt. If polls were anything to go by, Mitt Romney would be President, Labour would be a majority government in the UK and Britain would have left the EU.
That's a reasonable position. I do think that it's safe to say there are many in UK who would welcome a change in gun ownership laws. Violent crime is a real problem.
edit on 31-5-2013 by seabag because: (no reason given)
And guns would suddenly make that better will it?
Surely, guns would massively increase such? I didn't say we lived in a perfect society, but guns would only add to our problems, not magically solve them. We here in Britain don't think of ourselves as Captain America types - we're not just going to go storming in and save the day (and injure ourselves or get ourselves killed in the process). You seem to presuppose that guns would do more good than bad - that is erroneous and incorrect. Guns would themselves bring their own problems.
Originally posted by luciddream
The thing is, if you try to show how guns "saved" people, i can show you quadruple amount of massacre guns did, and this is just domestic as well.
many places you think "guns are banned" is not exactly banned, you can still get buy guns, for ex.. in Canada, but how often you see a shoot spree here?
You get the 1-2 a yr gangs shooting at each other, and thats it.
Problem here is the mentality that gun solves everything, that is whats the difference between America and rest of the developed worlds who has restriction on guns.
If you look at the statistics of gun deaths, US is probably the only "1st" world country to have a 3rd world statistics.
How would an American who grew up behind a gun would handle a situation when there is no gun available. Sadly many Americans don't leave anywhere other than the US, TV tells them how other countries are like.
Originally posted by DISRAELI
reply to post by seabag
85 percent of the people who bother to fill in an online poll is not the same thing as 85 percent of the country.
The process of asking "what different thing do you want to happen?" is automatically skewed in favour of those who want something different.