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Originally posted by intrepid
I still think the poll is flawed because anyone from any nationality can vote. That doesn't give a fair representation of what Brits think.
Originally posted by HomoSapiensSapiens
Originally posted by nake13
reply to post by seabag
I quite agree that we in the UK should have the option of carrying hand guns.If Drummer Lee Rigby had had that option,the chances are that he would be alive today.
Or he would have still been run over and shot dead instead and then a firefight would have ensued with public, most likely ending up with several injuries and deaths on both sides (and probably with the Woolwich Two attempting to storm the nearby barracks because they feel bold with their guns).
Some people and their fantasy worlds. They seriously think that a gun would magically solve lots of crimes - how's that working out in the US of A?
Originally posted by VforVendettea
I am in the 85% category.
My personal opinion is that if I would like to own a gun for recreational or self defense purposes I should be allowed to do so.
how many of these people would actually go and buy a gun themselves if they were made available to all
Originally posted by DISRAELI
reply to post by WhatAreThey
I don't think the sample is homogenous enough, and I made the point at more length in my second reply
Remember, the question asked was not "Do you want hand-guns, yes or no?", but "Which of these half-dozen new proposals would you prefer?"
This means that the sample is automatically weighted in favour of those who would like at least one of those half-dozen measures. Those who want no changes at all, or those who would like a change which is not among the listed half-dozen, are completely ignored. So that is not a genuine random sample.
Also, as Intrepid has just pointed out, we don't even know that all the voters are genuinely from the UK.
That would explain why the only proposal which would have any interest for those outside the UK has so many more votes than those proposals with a UK interest only. That is another kind of skewing.
Originally posted by WhatAreThey
I think we know that all voters are definitely NOT from the UK. I can tell you this with 100% certainty, because I just voted :-)
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
just to point out - gun cluns are still legal - merely limited in the firearms thier members can own
and i defy anyone to explain how " repealing the ban on hand guns " will make the UK any safer
i want the 1997 ban repealled - but repeal of the 1988 ban would be far more use to far more gun owners
just dont pretend " saftey " will be increased
Problem here is the mentality that gun solves everything, that is whats the difference between America and rest of the developed worlds who has restriction on guns.
If you look at the statistics of gun deaths, US is probably the only "1st" world country to have a 3rd world statistics.
UK Mail Online’s James Slack reported on the soaring gun violence sweeping the country. Slack wrote in his article entitled, “Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade,”
“Gun crime has almost doubled since Labour came to power as a culture of extreme gang violence has taken hold…In some parts of the country, the number of offences has increased more than five-fold.”
The UK Home Office figures for that period showed the total number of firearm offenses in England and Wales had increased from 5,209 in 1999 to 9,865 in 2009… An alarming rise in gun violence for a whopping 89 per cent.
Edit: to say that the thread name is totally misleading, because 85% of Britons do not want a repeal. Obviously .....