Help me understand why you support Bush...

dh, I'd figure the Bush-Nazi crap would get old, and old in a hurry. Go visit Dachau and feel truly ashamed of yourself for suggesting such a thing. Study history a little, look at current events and do the math.

The scream of it is that Israel supported Bush. The Nazis received support from the Arabs. Bush isn't taking over the world, he is leading the war against the enemy of not only the U.S. but also the Western world with its conflicting ideologies and standards. The war isn't religious, though, except on the part of the enemy. They hide in Mosques and store their ammo caches there; we won't blow them up because they are religious buildings. And while we chase down and kill the enemy, Bush keeps calling Islam a preaceful religion and not the enemy. Not at all Hitleresque.

Frankly this pathetic 'them or us' attitude is something that should have been dealt with in the schoolyard.

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
if we could step outside and look at ourselves, we might just get a chuckle or feel emarrassment from time to time, but guess what, did it occur to you that you say that as if all of you are perfect? You see, that is indicative of the Euro attitude we are sick of, pal! We don't care for your condescending attitude. So, you may respectfully keep it.

I see your Condescending attitude, and raise you an arrogant attitude, ignorant attitude?

Your argument is coming across as 'I can ignore you because you aren't perfect'. Where is any country claiming to be perfect? Does that make their criticism of another countries actions any less valid? Considering it the vast majority of the world, including the UK and Aus, would likely agree that the US world standing is on a very slippery slope.

The one true plague on ATS, and threads like these, is an intolerance for differing opinions.

A lot of people disagree with me. That doesn't mean that either of us are idiots, or even that either of us is wrong, more often than not.

However, those who label me an idiot for disagreeing with them, or being an American, or whatever, are really doing nothing more than ensuring that they will never benefit from the knowledge I possess.

And while that may not necessarily be a lot, I have seen and done a few things of interest over the years, and I have learned a few things from them. One thing I have learned is that thinking myself superior to my fellow men is a certain path to self-delusion and folly.

Ultimately, to denigrate others for their dissent is to confine oneself to a prison of ignorance, and it is a very lonely road, in the end.

Deny ignorance or embrace it, the choice is up to each of us.

Majic

First let me say I�m pretty mad at you�.you could have gone all day without making me aware of what flake was actually talking about. Now I understand how Hitler came to power over there, if they compare bush to Hitler....what an ignorant comparison.

Originally posted by phlake
I just sense a resemblence to a guy from Austria some 60 years ago, only he had a moustache...

I was just about to whip off a post about bush maybe being smart, maybe not, but certainly no Einstein. well truthfully I�m not so mad at you.

Originally posted by Majic
I'm glad to hear they're having a good time. Please warn them not to laugh too much or they might get light-headed.

Nice of you to try and help them�but you seem to be late�.come on speed up your response time.


[edit on 6-11-2004 by keholmes]

[edit on 6-11-2004 by keholmes]

The Overlord has climbed to his secluded retreat in the foothills of Manhattan and pondered the words of our fine members here, and the posting of other members several other related threads. Through great and deep contemplation, combined with a look at the recent survey (and not a little bit of Vodka), the much needed relief to this mental constipation has finally occurred. And believe it or not, it's conspiratorial. I tend to believe we are experiencing the early effects of perhaps the biggest conspiracy ever to effect the American public and politics. While it may sound very familiar, long-standing plan to pave the way for a small group to attempt to have their way with as much of the world as they can, the players are different than we've come to expect, and the tactics are somewhat new. more here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

It took a while to read through all the drivel.
SkepticOverlord is blind if he cant see that Kerry is a weak leader.
America (on Nov. 2nd) said NO to appeasement ,NO to gay rights,NO to higher taxes, NO to socialism, NO to gun control,NO to hollow leadership,NO to the U.N.,and HELL NO to terrorism. The liberal views of the Democratic party = Death to America.

spongebob,for a cartoon character you make a lot of sense.

Originally posted by spongebob America (on Nov. 2nd) said NO to appeasement ,NO to gay rights,NO to higher taxes, NO to socialism, NO to gun control,NO to hollow leadership,NO to the U.N.,and HELL NO to terrorism. The liberal views of the Democratic party = Death to America.

Not really. The republic came within 0.12% of all votes of voting for the alternative to Bush and the conservative policies. This is no national mandate. No massive majority. No mission for change. This is an intensely divided nation in which nearly everyone has been fooled into believing a choice must be made between extreme-right and extreme-left political ideology.

I don't think Bush is extreme right, his counterpart however was extreme left.

Did you ever look at Kerrys previous voting record?

Originally posted by LostSailor Did you ever look at Kerrys previous voting record?

I rarely consider that important. Today's items voted upon by representatives contain so much pork and additional funding, that the intent of the item they're actually voting on gets obscured.

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
I rarely consider that important. Today's items voted upon by representatives contain so much pork and additional funding, that the intent of the item they're actually voting on gets obscured.

LMAO!! Imagine how many votes Kerry would have got without the support of the "Anyone but Bush" vote. Can you say LANDSLIDE? When democrats nominated Kerry they LOST. The man is easy to dislike.

Bush haters who just want another thread for attacking Bush, I would like to ask you a question: WHAT-IS-SO-HARD-ABOUT-STAYING-OUT-OF-IT!?!??!?!?. Poor ol' S.O. asked a simple question! "Why do Bush supporters support Bush? " Not "Why do some people hate Bush". Not, "Liberals, give stupid insulting reasons as to why people might vote for Bush, whilst simotaneously insulting them" But no, some people just can't stay out of it. *Pounds Fist on computer desk*

Now to the issue at hand:

I'm sorry S.O, please don't ban me or anything, but you of all people, an ADMINISTRATOR should know that this topic has been posted numerous times before. You should also know that some Bush haters can NEVER stay out of something like this. I'm a Bush supporter. Although I'm only 17, and couldn't vote in this election, I have real reasons as to why I support the president. Let me list some for you.

-I supported the war in Afghanistan.

-I supported the war in Iraq.

-2/3 of the al qaeda leaders have been caught or killed.

-The Taliban's control of Afghanistan has been relinquished.

-The Taliban was scattered OUT of Afghanistan.

-Saddam Hussein is in jail.

-Saddam Hussein's regime is destroyed.

-Our economy is growing at an extremely fast rate, despite what many people assume.

-Millions of new jobs have been created, more so than have been lost. Most of the jobs that were lost were lost because of what happened on 9/11.

-Economically, some believe we are in a recession, but some believe we are in a reform. According to most, we were in a recession when Bush took office, and are now headed towards a reform. From what I've learned in marketing, I choose to believe that we're in a reform which is great.

-The unemployment rate is at 5.4, which is lower than in the 70's, 80's, and 90's.

-Although I don't agree with him on everything, we share many of the same morals.

So there's just some of the reasons why I support Bush. Is this a little more of what you were looking for?

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Skeptic Overlord start:
I remember sitting and watching the election returns last time around, in 2000, with a sinking feeling in my stomach. This time around, the feeling was more overpowering.

I think this guy felt that sinking feeling at adeeper level..does he know something we dont?

NEW YORK - A 25-year-old man from Georgia who was apparently distraught over President Bush (news - web sites)'s re-election shot and killed himself at ground zero.
story.news.yahoo.com.../ap/20041107/ap_on_re_us/ground_zero_suicide&cid=519&ncid=716

Now I dont mean to assume or snipe but the mentality of those that did vote for Bush would probably say good riddence... koo koo bird damn liberal obviously. Sad isnt it...that zero tolerant no love stance.

Originally posted by project_pisces
Now I dont mean to assume or snipe but the mentality of those that did vote for Bush would probably say good riddence... koo koo bird damn liberal obviously. Sad isnt it...that zero tolerant no love stance.

I'm sorry, but what does this have to do with Skeptic Overlord's question?

One word



WAR

This is a very good thread Skeptic Overlord! I too was wondering the same thing as I�m a registered independent and I really couldn�t get much out of both sides. I tried to get answers out of Bush supporters and all received was the product of fear. The Kerry supporters seemed to give me nothing but anti Bush drabble. I really wish someone could have given me something to fall 100% behind the President or John Kerry. I brought exactly this same subject up at a local bar three weeks ago and damned near caused a brawl. There seems to be a deep hatred by many on both sides and it�s beginning to become a little frightening

I didn't read all the threads so if this was posted already, I'm sorry.

I think an equal factor to why bush recieved the support he did besides the fear of terrorism is his Christian back ground. This is still largely a Christian nation. He recieved the majority of the Christian vote. Most Christians believe that he is more of a Godly person then Kerry. He used knowingly or unknowingly Christianity as a political issue. Thus most Christian voters voted for bush.

I personally didn't vote at all. I was discusted with the whole election.

i support bush because...

hmmm good question...

gotta think about this im shure there is a reason...

One reason, honesty. Bush had it, Kerry did not. simple as that.

Im jumpin in quite late, and for good reason.

After the elections, I stayed out of political discussion, because I began to see something that was disturbing to me. But after reading this thread, Im rather shocked that SO and I, who normally disagree on some issues, could have come to the exact same suspicion and concern in this election.

Right after it was announced Bush won, and I examined the fallout, I was SHOCKED. Naturally, I despise Bush as a terrible leader, terrible person, and terrible role model. Yet ahd Bush won say, because people selected him on some mundane normal grounds, like war on terror, they liked his tax cuts, i would have said, well...fine, youre suckers, but at least they would have chosen him for normal reasons.

What blew my mind and shook me out of a lull was when I realized the deciding factors of this electionm werent Iraq, security, ect..........GOD decided this election?????????? We, who supposedly are trying to stamp out religous extremism in the middle east and replace it with democracy (yeah whatever, but for the sake of arguement) have just re-elected a man based on religous fundimentalism, legislated morality, and oppresion of the rights to live of non Christians. They have also, through their irrational method of electing the most powerful man in the world, sent a clear message to any Muslims who were riding the fence: We are offically a Theocratic Christian nation, our war in the middle east is against Islam and Muslims, and we wish to, in true Christian fashion, export our religon and convert our enemies at the end of a sword.

Its very frightening, disturbing, but makes things alot more clear. Thanks, SO!!!!!!!