Do they still continue these projects?

Most likely yes, to some extent. HAARP for example is operationally deployed.

A shorter list:

ABC

CBC

NBC

FOX

ESPN....

Researcher, you forgot CNN

And people wonder why the Military teaches us not to trust propaganda. Personally I didn't trust the media before, after I think paranoya takes over finally rational sence creaps back.

Dragon what about the Austalian Project Jindalee?
Or even Nurrungar, maybe not directly related but still a possibilty. And then there is the Woomera Prohibited Area, I hear its no longer operational.

wow this is really weird i was just lying in my bed when i felt a beam peirce my mind.

it was a fluxuating high pitch frequency that shifted from higher to lower in my brain it was oddest most peculiar situation i have ever experienced.

is it ours or theirs?

For those of you thinking the thought of implants is just plain nuts think about it in a simpler way.

Thoughts in the brain a mearly bio electric impulses that connect to different areas of the brain at differnet frequencies that form a thought or function such as moving your arm or remembering something.

Radio waves are electronic impules that travel through the air at different frequencies to a reciever where they are reassembled to form sounds which then travel to the speaker.

Radio waves are easily broadcast over long distances, and if those distances get to great then sattelite signals are used instead.

Whats to keep someone from broadcasting brain waves? Just as long as they have a reciever?

I would think an implant in some test subjects that monitors brain electrical activity during various functions would give researchers data to attempt to recreate those impules in a laboratory and rebroadcast them to a reciever and get the same results.

Is there any evidence to prove that haarp is a mind control weapon. Does anyone actually know what haarp's real use is, i hear alsorts of storys about it been a mind control device, weather modification device etc.

[edit on 15-12-2005 by Raffles]

haarp was the initial research program, now they have probably integrated it into some form of beam weaponry. hence thats why i felt it shooting through my house....

strange

Originally posted by sturod84
wow this is really weird i was just lying in my bed when i felt a beam peirce my mind.

it was a fluxuating high pitch frequency that shifted from higher to lower in my brain it was oddest most peculiar situation i have ever experienced.

is it ours or theirs?

This kind of stuff has been happening a lot in the past week or so. I have had this kind of thing "pass through" my brain, but as I was half-asleep I didn't have the presence of mind to observe it properly vis a vis the frequency, source and purpose (if any).

Originally posted by dragonrider
Major U.S. Millitary and Intelligence Agency Electromagnetic Mind-Control Projects


Project Moonstruck, 1952, CIA:
Description -- Electronic implants in brain and teeth.
Targeting -- Long range; Implants introduced during surgery or surreptitiously during abduction.
Frequency range: HF-ELF transceiver implants.
Purpose: Tracking, mind and behavior control, conditioning, programming, covert operations.
Functional Basis: Electronic stimulation of the brain, E.S.B.

How the hell are they going to put these things in us?, while we are a sleep? i am a little confused here,

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[edit on 19-12-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]

This is some crazy things;;

If it is out were people can find it then it ment to be a plant. You can bet your paycheck they are playing with all kinds of things to play with your minds I do know that if it is ATS you are not going to see it on the net.
By the time you do get word about it, it's to late. Some of this stuff I could see some use for and others I do not. I would not mind them coming by my house with a mind thing to make stress go away. and that's just day to day life.

I'm not sure how long I have left to live, apart from the fact that I am recieving/transmitting signals through my brain to a government agency.

They are trying to prove that I am an evil person, but they are bombarding me with information, constantly asking me questions about passwords, my past. But the maddest thing is that they can actually make
me believe things for a short period of time (brainwashing).

I think my mind is being read through a series of satellites based around my country. The voices that I recieve through my head are of goverment voices and also close family members. Im not sure if actors are involved or my family/friends.

I can only tell you that it has started from a couple of years ago (2004+) and has been monitoring my brainwaves ever since.

If such a technology exists (and I believe it does) what would be the point of using it on the general public? One has to consider that such equipment and resources/personell needed would be cost prohibitive for general use. There's the cost of manufacturing the device, implanting the device, monitoring the device, training people to manufacture, implant and monitor. For each individuals thoughts to be monitored and controlled would require another individual to do it. That's a 1:1 ratio of personel. Very inefficient.

Now, if a device could be made that would have a carrier wave attached and that could be broadcast over a large population to give general commands, that would be more cost effective. HAARP is probably that device but it's so well-guarded that conflicting information is all we ever get about it.

For the majority of people, such devices as implants would be unnecessary to a controlling elite. Only the intellectuals, top scientists, politicians, etc. would need that level of control. The rest of us will just be expected to fall in line with little resistance and vocalizing our displeasure or mounting armed resistance will be easily and swiftly thwarted.

I'm always suspect of 20 something year olds saying they hear voices/commands. This is the age range in which schizophrenia kicks in. That said, perhaps many cases of diagnosed schizophrenia are a result of EM weapons. True schizophrenia is a biological condition and can be diagnosed by objective urine testing. Certain crystals form in the urine of schizophrenics but I have seen many people diagnosed with this disease who have never had their urine tested. Their diagnosis is based on clinical symptoms only. This may be a mistake. I suppose it's even possible to be truly schizophrenic AND have EM induced voices/commands. What a nightmare.

For anyone who believes they are the victim of implants/mind control, there are websites that offer to test for these things and to remove or block the impulses. Extreme caution is recommended as well as common sense in seeking such services.

If such a device exists...

"Project Moonstruck, 1952, CIA:
Description -- Electronic implants in brain and teeth.
Targeting -- Long range; Implants introduced during surgery or surreptitiously during abduction.
Frequency range: HF-ELF transceiver implants.
Purpose: Tracking, mind and behavior control, conditioning, programming, covert operations.
Functional Basis: Electronic stimulation of the brain, E.S.B."

1952. No transistors. Vacuum tubes. Implanted in teeth.

Technical stuff:
HF-ELF. Meaning 300 KHz to 30 MHz. Thats 300,000 cycles per second to 30,000,000 cycles per second radio waves. Radio waves travel at the speed of light, which we round up to 300,000 kilometers per second.

Radio waves are sine waves ( Google that one, I don't have all day for this ). The length of these waves can be calculated from the distance they travel divided by how often they occur.

300 / Frequency in MHZ = wavelength

300 / 30 MHz = 10 meters
300 / .3 MHz = 1000 meters.

Antennas develop maximum voltage at 1/2 wavelength. An antenna for 10 meters needs to be 5 meters long. Meter = 39.37 inches. Round that up to 40 because this isn't math class. 5 X 40 = 200 inches = 16 feet 8 inches.
An antenna for 1000 meters would be 500 meters long. 555 yards.

The liar who wrote this doesn't know fecal material from footwear polish.