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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by eight bits
sk0rpi0n : Well Jesus said the law was to remain until heaven and earth pass away...
And so it does remain.
It remains as printer ink on the pages of the Bible. It isn't followed by Christians who were told to keep it by Jesus... because they believe its been abolished because Paul said so.
Sorry, you got the story versions mixed up, between Matthew's and Luke's.
. . . and in those two commands one fulfills "all the law and prophets"?
Thou shalt . . .
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Thou shalt . . .
Jesus is stating what the Law is
Not giving it out as if he was then and there giving a new commandment
He was giving a recitation of a law already in existence
in a conversation about the Law, and what was the most important one.
How were Christians supposed to keep the law after Jerusalem fell in 70 AD? And why did Jesus say that He gave two commands under the new covenant and in those two commands one fulfils "all the law and prophets"?
Was Jesus crazy or lying when He said that? Was He a cruel trickster requiring full Torah observance for millions of future Christians when He knew full well, (and predicted in exact detail), the soon future destruction of the only place allowed under the law for sacrifices and mandatory attendance for high holy days?
AND engage in sexual deviancy with a consenting partner?
I don't know if you properly appreciate how uninformative your posts are.
I never said He was giving a new commandment in that passage. His new commandment came after the last supper and His washing of the disciple's feet.
Absolutely not, let me emphasize that a little bit:
So are you advocating following the law for Gentile Christians under the new covenant?
People in the Gospel stories were always trying to find ways to trip up Jesus in matters about the Law.
All the law hanging on those 2 commandments is not the same as "forget all those other laws, just keep these two
And if you want to advocate observance of the law the sacrificial system goes hand in hand with that.
So if the law is and always has been effectual mankind has been screwed for almost two millennia.
No, that would fall under loving one's neighbor as you'd love yourself. If I had a lapse in judgment I wouldn't want another person taking advantage of that.
Also, Paul speaks against sexual immorality and homosexuality. Was Paul referring back to the law against homosexuality... or was he speaking from his own bias?
is it possible for a man to follow the 2 commandments, love God and your neighbors and be a homosexual?
I'm not advocating observance of the law. I am just pointing out to the Biblical teaching that the law is to be kept. That is all.
I don't think anyone needs to worry about that being a possibility.
I'd say those who were told to keep the law by God and Jesus have been screwed.