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Originally posted by FlyersFan
A few years ago(if I remember correctly), the Vatican astronomer came out and said that it was likely that life exists elsewhere in the universe. The Vatican basically said 'thats fine .. it won't change your faith in God'. It's all good ....edit on 3/23/2013 by FlyersFan because: added word
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by FlyersFan
A few years ago(if I remember correctly), the Vatican astronomer came out and said that it was likely that life exists elsewhere in the universe. The Vatican basically said 'thats fine .. it won't change your faith in God'. It's all good ....edit on 3/23/2013 by FlyersFan because: added word
Man, the Catholics can't catch a break. If they deny the potential for ET life, then they are bad because they are primitives but if they accept the potential for ET life, they are bad because they are just "covering their bases." I guess that you can't please everybody and that there are some people that will dislike them no matter what they do.
Originally posted by igor_ats
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by FlyersFan
A few years ago(if I remember correctly), the Vatican astronomer came out and said that it was likely that life exists elsewhere in the universe. The Vatican basically said 'thats fine .. it won't change your faith in God'. It's all good ....edit on 3/23/2013 by FlyersFan because: added word
Man, the Catholics can't catch a break. If they deny the potential for ET life, then they are bad because they are primitives but if they accept the potential for ET life, they are bad because they are just "covering their bases." I guess that you can't please everybody and that there are some people that will dislike them no matter what they do.
They can't even "cover their bases" since any sort of harmony between Catholic worldview and superior intelligence is erroneous and incongruous if we take the bible as "the truth".
Just because a member of the faith says their is no issue and Catholic worldview fits perfectly with Aliens doesn't mean there isn't. A member of the faith who says these things is no better than the Iraq Information minister.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by igor_ats
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by FlyersFan
A few years ago(if I remember correctly), the Vatican astronomer came out and said that it was likely that life exists elsewhere in the universe. The Vatican basically said 'thats fine .. it won't change your faith in God'. It's all good ....edit on 3/23/2013 by FlyersFan because: added word
Man, the Catholics can't catch a break. If they deny the potential for ET life, then they are bad because they are primitives but if they accept the potential for ET life, they are bad because they are just "covering their bases." I guess that you can't please everybody and that there are some people that will dislike them no matter what they do.
They can't even "cover their bases" since any sort of harmony between Catholic worldview and superior intelligence is erroneous and incongruous if we take the bible as "the truth".
Just because a member of the faith says their is no issue and Catholic worldview fits perfectly with Aliens doesn't mean there isn't. A member of the faith who says these things is no better than the Iraq Information minister.
LOL. So if someone else's interpretation of the Bible is different than yours, they must be of inferior intelligence?
Originally posted by igor_ats
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by igor_ats
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by FlyersFan
A few years ago(if I remember correctly), the Vatican astronomer came out and said that it was likely that life exists elsewhere in the universe. The Vatican basically said 'thats fine .. it won't change your faith in God'. It's all good ....edit on 3/23/2013 by FlyersFan because: added word
Man, the Catholics can't catch a break. If they deny the potential for ET life, then they are bad because they are primitives but if they accept the potential for ET life, they are bad because they are just "covering their bases." I guess that you can't please everybody and that there are some people that will dislike them no matter what they do.
They can't even "cover their bases" since any sort of harmony between Catholic worldview and superior intelligence is erroneous and incongruous if we take the bible as "the truth".
Just because a member of the faith says their is no issue and Catholic worldview fits perfectly with Aliens doesn't mean there isn't. A member of the faith who says these things is no better than the Iraq Information minister.
LOL. So if someone else's interpretation of the Bible is different than yours, they must be of inferior intelligence?
If the best they got to support them is vague OT text that God was "secretly telling us about Aliens" then my opinion > their/your opinion (imo of course).
If this is not what you're talking about can you highlight what text are you refrring to that they're referring to?
Also the bible seems pretty clear on creation/Adam and Eve etc. you tell me which is the correct interpretation of these "biblical truths"? They're just allegories yes?edit on 25-3-2013 by igor_ats because: (no reason given)
Firstly, one could argue that arguing that one's take on mythological writings are more intelligent than another's is a tad bit silly as there really is no empirical proof that any of the Bible is scientifically true--can you prove that angels exist?
Secondly, the Catholic Church did not argue that there was proof of aliens in the Bible, they simply did not reject the possability that they may exist and, as such, would fall in teh same category as other intelligent beings not mentioned in the Bible, such as the native Americans. Obviously the Americas were not mentioned in the Bible at all and Christianity adapted to the New World quite well.
Originally posted by PsiOpSky
reply to post by 2012newstart
The church would never accept et life. Because they would lose all their power and no doubt if et lands they will call them the spawn of satan. Religious people are an interesting bunch they are like a woman they judge you one day and love you the other. Yet secretly they condemn you to hell because you are not one of them
Originally posted by 2012newstart
I wonder what exactly is cut off from the Gospels. It transpires the fact that the so called church fathers put aside a great deal of texts that were not fit for the emerging judaeo-christian-roman church structure and lifestyle. The secret gospel of Mark is just one example, not alone, of possible other sides of Jesus' character. I do not say this or that is true, I am saying there are many more texts that deliberately were ignored and hidden in the time when the young churches and their leaders formed what we know today as "New testament". It is no surprise there weren't found very old texts dating back to 100 AD the time of John. Why not, if there are older preserved Jewish texts of the Old Testament, let alone other literature of that time? Today's Gospels are composed much later, after the death of the first generation of disciples, the last of whom was John. How about changing the already known texts to ubelievable difference?
How about texts speaking of direct involvement of "angels" bearing extraterrestrial signs, as Ezekiel 1 wheels and Elijah chariot do? What are those men in white clothes that appear here and there, move stones, and transport Philip from Gaza to Azotus? And how about the secret life of Jesus? No one wrote about it? I can't believe it. Rather I would believe it is concealed, banned as heretical, because it disturbed the established way of life that the christianity adapted to quite fast. The persecutions come on top of that. And i wonder, just wonder, didn't some church fathers adapt christian views because of the fear of persecution, or s a result of past persecutions? Emperor Constantine arises on the scene after being a seer or so, and after winning the throne in a battle. He wasn't even baptized at the time when he approved texts of the church! I do not deny anything approved by the holy church. I doubt much has been left outside, and that is the really important part of the Gospels.
Will we have the courage to learn the truth of Jesus our Lord? The biggest fanatics will refuse to believe it, even if they are everyday on mass and say 3 or more rosaries a day. As the pharisees refused to believe any "change" in what they perceived as authentic words of God thru Moses. And in the name of that they crucified Jesus. The story will repeat, only this time the fanatics will be left on this planet that is doomed to destruction and fire. See 2 Peter.
Originally posted by 2012newstart
I see what the motivations of the majority of posters are.
However the fact remains there - the Vatican is searching thru mainstream science telescopes alien planets. And if life is discovered on one of them, or someone has already come from there, kept secret, the Catholic Church seems declares she can live with it. Something more - she considers all those ET races to be offered God's grace if they don't have the Revelation of the Bible made by God and His Son on Earth.
Regarding how laughable the ET are at religion - did you meet them to know? The humanity has a price, and the biggest of it is the Son of God who incarnated was crucified and resurrected on Earth. The ET some of them know of that. But perhaps some people here do not accept and do not want that possibility to happen. Some of the humans are hostile at the idea that God's word may spread into the vast cosmos.edit on 24-3-2013 by 2012newstart because: (no reason given)