E-Cig Conspiracy

Well it has now been 2 weeks since I had my last cig. There have only been two other times in my life that I had gone without for any period of time one was basic training in the ARMY the other was jump school neither time was it a choice of mine. Hell even when I was a kid my parents smoked like chimneys in the car and house to where I would nic fit in school. Then 25 years of smoking on my own.

Well F$%K the cig companies I quit. This is the company I use unhookecigs.com...

I think in another month I will be able to put it all down and walk away from it.

Originally posted by AthiestJesus
reply to post by Unity_99

 

Long term use will cause more damage than smoking.

You are inhaling vapours that will eventually collect , filling your lungs with moisture . Fairly basic science .

Except your science is dumb. Ever go swimming? When we breath it has the effect of drying your lungs hell you would have more risk from living in humid climates and that risk would still be 0.

Stop spreading lies based of off BS non science. You must work for Tabaco companies.

I have been smoking the e-cig for over 3 years now (I had smoked for 20 years) My lungs feel better I can smoke in the house and I no longer smell like cigarettes.

It has been the only thing that got me to stay off of cigarettes.Granted I smoke the e-sig as much or more than I did cigarettes now.

reply to post by AthiestJesus


I live in South Carolina and it is July. Now, if you're not from or not familiar with weather conditions here in the southern United States, summers are hot and HUMID. Very humid. Normal ranges are between 80-90 percent humidity in the summer. I have lived here over 10 years. I suppose I should have drown by now.

I have been using an ecig for just short of three years.

Yet,,,I haven't drown yet or suffered any ill-effects at all on my lungs. As a matter of fact, my oxygen saturation has gone from 87% when I was smoking up to 98% (last test) now. Huh. How is that possible, if what you state is true?

Looks like you're parroting information from propaganda you've heard or read, or you're just spouting junk you know absolutely nothing about.

Ever cook and breath in the wonderful smells from it? Yeah, according to your logic, that's more dangerous than vapor from my ecig as there are more particles released in the vapors from cooking than from my ecig.

I'm thinking that air pollution from factories and vehicles is about 10000 times more dangerous than ecig vapor and cooking, making those two things pretty much moot when discussing dangerous things we shouldn't breath.

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by AthiestJesus
reply to post by Unity_99

 

Long term use will cause more damage than smoking.

You are inhaling vapours that will eventually collect , filling your lungs with moisture . Fairly basic science .

Except your science is dumb. Ever go swimming? When we breath it has the effect of drying your lungs hell you would have more risk from living in humid climates and that risk would still be 0.

Stop spreading lies based of off BS non science. You must work for Tabaco companies.

You nut-jobs must work for e-cig companies.

Ever breathed water in whilst swimming ?

" BS non science "

www.nhs.uk...

Plus , they`re mostly made in China ... ooooooooh boy.

Originally posted by CoherentlyConfused

Yet,,,I haven't drown yet or suffered any ill-effects at all on my lungs. As a matter of fact, my oxygen saturation has gone from 87% when I was smoking up to 98% (last test) now. Huh. How is that possible, if what you state is true?

I`m calling B.S on this . 87% up to 98% on e-cigs ?

reply to post by AthiestJesus


I have accidentally inhaled it many times and haven’t drowned yet.

I surf and we call it water lung it takes a day or so before the coughs stop. I will not even go into scuba diving with you.

You never swam much did you?


The article you posted is an utter crock. Since I switched from smoking cigarettes to Vaping I can run a 2 mile just under 15 minutes to where it was taking me 18 before and I don’t feel short of breath. I haven’t been able to run under 15 minutes since I was 28 in the Army.

Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by AthiestJesus

 

I have accidentally inhaled it many times and haven’t drowned yet.

I surf and we call it water lung it takes a day or so before the coughs stop. I will not even go into scuba diving with you.

You never swam much did you?

Well you`re an idiot if you`re breathing in water , a sure way to drown . Of course I swim , I`m just .... not an idiot I guess .

Still , we done comparing trunks ?

E-cigs have been proven to cause damage to the lungs , the only reason this isn`t all-over the mainstream media is because it`s a new market for them to exploit .

reply to post by AthiestJesus


From your source

Where did the story come from?
The study was carried out by researchers from the University of Athens in Greece. Sources of funding were not reported.

This story is based on a press release and conference abstract (a short summary of the findings) from the European Respiratory Society’s Annual Congress in Vienna in September 2012 presenting the initial findings of a study on e-cigarettes.

The study has not yet been published in a journal, and therefore has not been subjected to the peer-review process so findings reported should be treated with some caution.

You can’t honestly expect anyone to take your study serious.

Funny though when I made dive master idiot was nowhere in the description. Inhaling water is accidental it happens to every person who has spent a significant amount of time in the water if you think different you are beyond help.

FYI your lung is lined with respiratory epithelium, which is constantly secreting and absorbing water and other things. It would take care of a small amount of water in a very short time.

Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by AthiestJesus

 

From your source

Where did the story come from?
The study was carried out by researchers from the University of Athens in Greece. Sources of funding were not reported.

This story is based on a press release and conference abstract (a short summary of the findings) from the European Respiratory Society’s Annual Congress in Vienna in September 2012 presenting the initial findings of a study on e-cigarettes.

The study has not yet been published in a journal, and therefore has not been subjected to the peer-review process so findings reported should be treated with some caution.

You can’t honestly expect anyone to take your study serious.

Funny though when I made dive master idiot was nowhere in the description. Inhaling water is accidental it happens to every person who has spent a significant amount of time in the water if you think different you are beyond help.

I am beyond help for thinking differently to you ? .. sums up most of ATS . BTW , "dive master" sounds gay - not cool .

As for the study , look at my post above.

EDIT : don't know if you noticed but the link is to the NHS.

reply to post by AthiestJesus


Who is the idiot now. The quote is from your link I guess you didn't actually read it. And since you missed the rest of my post here it is again. FYI your lung is lined with respiratory epithelium, which is constantly secreting and absorbing water and other things. It would take care of a small amount of water in a very short time.

As far as calling Dive Master Gay what are you 12? God I can't wait till school starts again so all the stupid kids stop clogging up the threads. It happens every summer.

Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by AthiestJesus

 

Who is the idiot now. The quote is from your link I guess you didn't actually read it. And since you missed the rest of my post here it is again. FYI your lung is lined with respiratory epithelium, which is constantly secreting and absorbing water and other things. It would take care of a small amount of water in a very short time.

As far as calling Dive Master Gay what are you 12? God I can't wait till school starts again so all the stupid kids stop clogging up the threads. It happens every summer.

Yeah , dive master is gay ...... you threw it in there as if it was cool and would make me step back in awe of your almighty presence or something.

I know the quote is from my link , hence the last line of my post ......... are you for real or what ?

Why on earth , would they openly admit that these things are damaging peoples lungs when they are making an absolute KILLING out of gullible idiots ? Of course the e-sig companies will defend it , it`s their product .

Any particular reason why you feel the need to have a d*** swinging competition ?

EDIT : for the record , I`m talking long-term ........ just incase you think I believe one draw off an e-cig will kill you instantly , or some backward crap like that.

reply to post by AthiestJesus


Your source article says its claims are unsubstantiated in case you didn't understand what they meant. Your reasoning for claiming e-cigs to be harmful is pure speculation on your part.

Dive master indicates I have extensive training. Your insult calling it gay shows you have no idea what dive master is and that you are immature probably still in grade school. BTW seals would be dive master or instructor certified go tell them its gay.

If you are going to make claims such as e-cigs are harmful and that goes for anything you need to back it up with substance not a article which states they have not been peer reviewed (do you understand what that means) and the information provided should be treated with caution that means it may be all BS. The funding for said article is not reported so it may be from the Tabaco companies the same companies who had paid studies say smoking was not harmful.


I can't believe I needed to explain all of that to you but I see you are new here so I am cutting you some slack.

reply to post by Grimpachi


Yeah , because im really impressed by brainwashed goons like the seals

If you think diving is heroic / manly / or even a "skill" you're an idiot .

Do i really need to repeat myself ? It seems like your ego is getting in the way of your decision-making .
As for cutting me some slack because im "new" ..... (technically im not) ..... you're the one coming across as a "12 year old " .

reply to post by AthiestJesus


Go ahead keep believing you can drown from a little water or an e-cig.

Your account will not last long here if every time you disagree with someone or they show you you’re wrong you resort to insults. Maybe this is your second account from what you’re saying how many times to plan to be banned.

Man I can’t wait till school starts and you kids are gone.

diving is a manly thing to do and it most certainly is a skill
anti jesus do you like banging your head against a wall because it makes about as much sense as your argument

getting a little water in your lungs is hardly a death sentence otherwise the beach would be littered with dead bodies

one non peer reviewed study is not much to go on

from the supposed test

"Limited conclusions can be drawn from the preliminary findings of this small study. The current press release suggests that the study adds weight to the growing evidence of the harmful effects of e-cigarettes."

growing evidence i guess they mean this one study i cant find much else anywhere

"With only the press release available it is not possible to conduct a full appraisal of the design and methods of this study. The study is reported to have included 32 people and investigated the short-term effects of a single e-cigarette on their respiratory function."

wow a study on 32 people well that seems like a massive data base (sarcasm)

the studies conclusion was that immediately after smoking ecigs that they noticed a decrease in lung function


not much of a study is that all you non smoking Nazi's have

Going on 2 months without smoking here. Smoked for 10 years. Ecigs have been a great replacement.

Only issue is that its still harmful but helpful. its way better than ingesting smoke and tar.

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Since I switched from smoking cigarettes to Vaping I can run a 2 mile just under 15 minutes to where it was taking me 18 before and I don’t feel short of breath. I haven’t been able to run under 15 minutes since I was 28 in the Army.

Ive had similar results here.

My cycling stamina has increased dramatically. I did 52 miles total yesterday and did 18ish of those miles in 1 hour 45 minutes. Biked from NJ to NY and back via the GW bridge. If i tried that a few months ago, I would've died.

Well the Cdn g=v makes all their money using monopolies. Look at BC most everything in the whole province is run by the g=v. You can't even take a sheat without the g=v wanning a piece of it. ha ha. We're totally socialist. Anything that can be run by the g-v to make big money, is. And the price of smokes and booz is about double what they pay in the US, all that extra money going into the coffers of the g=v. So ya you think they want people to figure out ways to stop smoking???? NOT A CHANCE. But if that's working for you, even if that's just working in terms of saving you 90% against what you use to pay I'd say keep going with it.