When did the police become a "race"?

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posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 04:37 PM
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Since when have the police become it's own race?

It seems like when a white officer acts in, what he perceived to be, self defense against a african-american or hispanic-american, it is labeled as a racially motivated hate crime, but if an african-american shoots another african-american, all of the sudden it is because the police are racist. Is it only because this is what gains media attention? Is it only for ratings? Is the the "man" trying to keep us separated?

Race and Police Brutality: Roots of an Urban Dilemma

The Concept of Racial Profiling


Today skin color makes you a suspect in America. It makes you more likely to be stopped, more likely to be searched, and more likely to be arrested and imprisoned.

One of the ACLU's highest priority issues is the fight against the outrageous practice of racial profiling. Our recently released report Driving While Black: Racial Profiling On Our Nation's Highways, documents this practice of substituting skin color for evidence as a grounds for suspicion by law enforcement officials.

Tens of thousands of innocent motorists on highways across the country are victims of racial profiling. And these discriminatory police stops have reached epidemic proportions in recent years - fueled by the "War on Drugs" that has given police a pretext to target people who they think fit a "drug courier" or "gang member" profile.

That is why the ACLU has undertaken a major initiative to put an end to discriminatory police stops, including the launch of our Arrest the Racism campaign. This special web-based campaign is designed to educate the public and enlist citizens in the fight to end racial profiling in America.



Ignoring racial violence only guarantees that it will get worse. The Chicago Tribune has publicly rationalized its filtering out of any racial identification of attackers and their victims, even though the media do not hesitate to mention race when decrying statistical disparities in arrest or imprisonment rates.

Such mob attacks have become so frequent in Chicago that officials promoting conventions there have recently complained to the mayor that the city is going to lose business if such widespread violence is not brought under control.

But neither these officials nor the mayor nor most of the media use that four-letter word, “race.” It would not be politically correct or politically convenient in an election year. Read more at www.wnd.com...


Are race riots not news?


Each year, roughly 7,000 blacks are murdered. Ninety-four percent of the time, the murderer is another black person. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, between 1976 and 2011, there were 279,384 black murder victims. Using the 94 percent figure means that 262,621 were murdered by other blacks.

Though blacks are 13 percent of the nation’s population, they account for more than 50 percent of homicide victims. Nationally, the black homicide victimization rate is six times that of whites, and in some cities, it’s 22 times that of whites. Coupled with being most of the nation’s homicide victims, blacks are most of the victims of violent personal crimes, such as assault and robbery. Read more at www.wnd.com...


Should black people tolerate this?


Tommy Burke had just left a local watering hole in the Trolley Square neighborhood of Wilmington, Del.

Burke makes bird-house reproductions of Wilmington estate homes that get national attention.

This self-professed liberal calls himself a 60-year-old hippy.

Walking home, he passed through a crowd of 40 black people – mostly teenagers – milling around outside of a party. Thirty yards later, he found himself followed, then surrounded by five people from that group.

“They said give me your f—— money,” he said. “And they threatened to beat me up. They said I was just a guy who drank too much and I couldn’t fight back. I took off my glasses, put my false teeth in my pocket and told them that was not going to happen.”

Much to their surprise – and his – he punched one of his robbers. After a few more blows were exchanged, the five teenagers ran back in the direction of the party. All of Tommy Burke’s cash and valuables were intact. He did suffer injuries to his mouth that will require dental surgery.

“These two women from the party – I think they were mothers – begged me not to call the police. I told them I just got mugged, of course I was going to call the police.” Read more at www.wnd.com...


Attempted robbery that almost became a race riot Read more at www.wnd.com...

In almost all of these instances that became national news, half were white police officers that attack african-american citizens, while the other are african-american or hispanic police attacking african-american citizens.

Why is it that when a police officer attacks (justified or unjustified) an african-american suspect, the police become a "race". If it is a white police officer, it's racially motivated, however, if it's an african-american police officer it is also racially motivated?

Has the MSM been this successful as to divide us all about an issue that has no merit and does not matter? Is it all for ratings? Do White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, etc Americans feel the way the MSM reports?
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posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 04:46 PM
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I wish race wasn't a factor, but unfortunately, it is. A lot of people don't believe this but racial profiling of black guys especially, it really exists. There is an abundance of evidence supporting this. It's the way it is. I've experienced this firsthand on more than one occassion.



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by poloblack
I wish race wasn't a factor, but unfortunately, it is. A lot of people don't believe this but racial profiling of black guys especially, it really exists. There is an abundance of evidence supporting this. It's the way it is. I've experienced this firsthand on more than one occassion.


yeah, race is a factor, for those who are obsessed with race and who love playing group identity, something you maybe familiar with by the sounds of it, no offence like



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Catalyst317
It seems like when a white officer acts in, what he perceived to be, self defense against a african-american or hispanic-american, it is labeled as a racially motivated hate crime, but if an african-american shoots another african-american, all of the sudden it is because the police are racist.


The 'liberal' left don't care about African-americans or Hispanic-americans. They just want to create more victims to further their own agenda.



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 04:51 PM
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Thank Eric Holder! He will NOT prosecute crimes where it is a black on white issue! Just do a search on justice department refuses to prosecute black hate crimes and you will see what I am talking about!

Contrary to popular belief, it has nothing to do with supporting minorities, but to create an environment where the government can claim the "moral high ground" when the race war finally hits the streets!

We have the thing in Wisconsin right now where Americorp is requiring white volunteers to say they are privileged while minorities can legally follow them around and make them feel guilty because they were born white!

This is what our government is hoping for so that they can bring the hammer down on all of us (regardless of race or political beliefs) thus creating the chaos they need to come in with their hands out saying "We are the government and we are here to help!" when in reality it will be our death sentence to allow this to happen!



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 04:55 PM
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I wish race wasn't a factor, but unfortunately, it is. A lot of people don't believe this but racial profiling of black guys especially, it really exists. There is an abundance of evidence supporting this. It's the way it is. I've experienced this firsthand on more than one occassion.


I am an old white dude with very long hair! Do you think I don't get profiled as a druggy? Do you see me hating people with short hair because of it? Your an enabler for making excuses! You want change? Then start telling the government (as a person who happen to have been born black) that you will NO LONGER PERMIT THEM TO USE YOU!

As long as the so called minorities allow the government to let them think they have a right to scream "RACIST" instead of standing up to them and letting them know you don't buy into their manipulation, the cancer we call "racism" will just get much worse......

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posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Credenceskynyrd

Originally posted by poloblack
I wish race wasn't a factor, but unfortunately, it is. A lot of people don't believe this but racial profiling of black guys especially, it really exists. There is an abundance of evidence supporting this. It's the way it is. I've experienced this firsthand on more than one occassion.


yeah, race is a factor, for those who are obsessed with race and who love playing group identity, something you maybe familiar with by the sounds of it, no offence like
I don't play group identity at all, I'm American and I have no qualms with any race. I'm black, Cherokee, with a half white, half Cherokee great grandmother, so what group would I be playing? It's quite obvious you know nothing about me, and I don't know, or care where your sentiments come from. I was merely posting a reply on this thread. Cool screenname you have though, I dig CCR and Lynyrd Skynyrd.



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by seeker1963
reply to post by poloblack
 



I wish race wasn't a factor, but unfortunately, it is. A lot of people don't believe this but racial profiling of black guys especially, it really exists. There is an abundance of evidence supporting this. It's the way it is. I've experienced this firsthand on more than one occassion.


I am an old white dude with very long hair! Do you think I don't get profiled as a druggy? Your an enabler for making excuses! You want change? Then start telling the government (as a person who happen to have been born black) that you will NO LONGER PERMIT THEM TO USE YOU!

As long as the so called minorities allow the government to let them think they have a right to scream "RACIST" instead of standing up to them and letting them know you don't buy into their manipulation, the cancer we call "racism" will just get much worse......

Dude, I'm not screaming racist, I was talking about MY experience with profiling, and I don't look ''hood'' at all.



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by seeker1963
reply to post by Catalyst317
 


Thank Eric Holder! He will NOT prosecute crimes where it is a black on white issue! Just do a search on justice department refuses to prosecute black hate crimes and you will see what I am talking about!

Contrary to popular belief, it has nothing to do with supporting minorities, but to create an environment where the government can claim the "moral high ground" when the race war finally hits the streets!

We have the thing in Wisconsin right now where Americorp is requiring white volunteers to say they are privileged while minorities can legally follow them around and make them feel guilty because they were born white!

This is what our government is hoping for so that they can bring the hammer down on all of us (regardless of race or political beliefs) thus creating the chaos they need to come in with their hands out saying "We are the government and we are here to help!" when in reality it will be our death sentence to allow this to happen!


I love that you brought up Eric Holder... I wanted to post this, but thought it took away too much from the topic of police becoming their own race...


Back in 2009, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said we were “a nation of cowards” on matters of race. Permit me to be brave and run a few assertions by you just to see whether we’re on the same page. There should be two standards for civilized conduct: one for whites, which is higher, and another for blacks, which is lower. In other words, in the name of justice and fair play, blacks should not be held accountable to the same standards whites are and should not be criticized for conduct we’d deem disgusting and racist if said or done by whites.

You say, “Williams, what in the world are you talking about?” Mitt Romney hasn’t revealed all of his fall campaign strategy yet, but what if he launched a “White Americans for Romney” movement in an effort to get out the white vote? If the Romney campaign did that, there’d be a media-led outcry across the land, with charges ranging from racial insensitivity to outright racism. When President Barack Obama announced his 2012 launch of “African Americans for Obama,” the silence was deafening. Should the same standards be applied to Obama as would be applied to Romney? The answer turns out to be no, because Obama is not held to the same standards as Romney.
Read more at www.wnd.com...


www.wnd.com...
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posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by poloblack
I wish race wasn't a factor, but unfortunately, it is. A lot of people don't believe this but racial profiling of black guys especially, it really exists. There is an abundance of evidence supporting this. It's the way it is. I've experienced this firsthand on more than one occassion.


The problem is, racial profiling hits the nail right on the head.

Based on official crime statistics


Blacks are 7 times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and 8 times more likely to commit robbery.

Blacks are 3 times more likely to use a hand gun, and twice more likely to use a knife.

Hispanics commit 3 times more violent crimes than whites but the statistics are nebulous because sometimes they are classified as white, so it could be far higher.

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Not all black people are criminals. For whatever reason though, they are much more likely to be.

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posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 05:10 PM
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Do you think that normal Americans (yes, I know that is an oxymoron) know the stats? Do you think that it is still racially motivated or just a hype by the MSM?



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino


Not all black people are criminals. For whatever reason though, they are much more likely to be.

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Correction, chief, MOST black people are not criminals.
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posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 05:18 PM
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"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."
--Dostoyevsky

There are crimes that, like frost on flowers, in one single night destroy character and reputation.
--Henry Ward Beecher

Crime is as much a condition as an intention.
--Lewis F. Korns

Criminals are dumb as stumps. If they were smart they could go be investment bankers. Or judges.
--Black Jack Point



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by poloblack

Correction, chief, MOST black people are not criminals.



It must be stressed that the majority of Black people and Hispanics are law abiding citizens.

That doesn't mean the police are, as a matter of detecting crime, wrong to suspect a black person to be 7 times more likely to commit murder, 8 times more likely to commit robbery, 3 times more likely to use a hand gun, and twice more likely to use a knife or a Hispanic person to be 3 times more likely to commit a violent crime.

For whatever reason, perhaps simple poverty and a lack of opportunities, the black community does produce an disproportionate amount of criminals.

While I agree that racial profiling is extremely wrong and stressing for the black community, the police do it for a good reason.



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by poloblack

Correction, chief, MOST black people are not criminals.



It must be stressed that the majority of Black people and Hispanics are law abiding citizens.

That doesn't mean the police are, as a matter of detecting crime, wrong to suspect a black person to be 7 times more likely to commit murder, 8 times more likely to commit robbery, 3 times more likely to use a hand gun, and twice more likely to use a knife or a Hispanic person to be 3 times more likely to commit a violent crime.



This is proving my point that "police officers" are becoming a race of their own. You say "It must be stressed that the majority of Black people and Hispanics are law abiding citizens", but then go on to present stats of a racial nature... a black person is "7 times to be more likely to commit murder" than what? What race are your stats based around?



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Catalyst317

This is proving my point that "police officers" are becoming a race of their own.


Well, the police do like to tell you that they are the biggest gang in the world. So perhaps not a race but rather a gang that controls the streets?



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by poloblack

Correction, chief, MOST black people are not criminals.



It must be stressed that the majority of Black people and Hispanics are law abiding citizens.

That doesn't mean the police are, as a matter of detecting crime, wrong to suspect a black person to be 7 times more likely to commit murder, 8 times more likely to commit robbery, 3 times more likely to use a hand gun, and twice more likely to use a knife or a Hispanic person to be 3 times more likely to commit a violent crime.

For whatever reason, perhaps simple poverty and a lack of opportunities, the black community does produce an disproportionate amount of criminals.

While I agree that racial profiling is extremely wrong and stressing for the black community, the police do it for a good reason.


I understand your position, but I shouldn't be somehow ''penalized'' because of some statistics that state that guys who look like me are more prone to criminal activity. Yeah, I know life isn't fair, and all of that, but it doesn't make it right.



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 05:47 PM
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I for one, don't trust federal statistics, or federal anything for that matter. Just like they manipulate everything else, stats are no different.



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 05:49 PM
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The race of whichever officer who happens to be knowingly or unknowingly directly aiding or otherwise contributing to the disinfranchisement of a set group of people is irrelevant to the fact that said group of people is at all being disenfranchised. In the case of the NYPD there exists a complex structure of different groups of people all in some way being wronged by their policies. What makes it racist is that most of the brass, the higher ups aka the people who call the shots for the department and how it carries out its practices is mostly of european descent while the mostly commonly harrased average citizen is of hispanic, african or middle eastern descent.

Personally i celebrate something ive noticed about the NYPD. It seems, to me atleast, that as of late your rate of discriminatory or uncomfortable encounters with officers has less to do with your race. Right now aside from hispanics, blacks and middle eastern people the NYPD seem to target women, homosexuals, transgendered people and poor people with an almost equal frenquency. Indeed we may be on the path to an eradication of racism. However the laughably unforseen flipside to that coin is the birth of something equal parts racist/sexist/classist/anti gay. There is an obvious deeprooted sickness of intolerance going around the Department and unfortunately the police have become somewhat of their own race. A race that all these growing groups of disenfranchised people are ironically becoming quite intolerant of.

I in no way believe that violence will solve the issue or that every single officer is a horrible person but its become obvious to a growing number of new yorkers that there are policies of inherent department sponsored corruption that use cops, blacks, hispanics and many other groups of people to carry out a certain agenda that may or may not be in the best interests of certain political or corporate groups.



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Catalyst317

This is proving my point that "police officers" are becoming a race of their own.


Well, the police do like to tell you that they are the biggest gang in the world. So perhaps not a race but rather a gang that controls the streets?



Well played sir... I never thought about it like that "the police are a gang" supported by the Government... Now that is a great thought. I never would have put the two together... They spend so much to eradicate police, but they are funding the largest "gang" violence in the USA...





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